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C0RI0LANUS

(3,015 posts)
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 07:28 PM Feb 17

No Doubt America's Godzilla is a Russian Asset, But When Did the Kremlin Recruit Donald J. Trumpf?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=

Nobody on the planet should not have been surprised by the US position at the recent NATO conference in Munich, Germany. Basically, Donald Trumpf abandoned support for Kiev after his demands for half of Ukraine’s rare earths were rebuffed. But that too was kabuki theater, just like Trumpf’s previous bloviating against Vladimir Putin to stop the war against Ukraine, ominously threatening that all “options were under consideration.” The historic parallel to British and French appeasement to Nazi Germany over Czechoslovakia in Munich 1938 is remarkable.







Henceforth, the EU, NATO, and the world for that matter, must treat the US as being under the nefarious occupation of Russia for at least the next four years, as if America was invaded and defeated like France or the Netherlands during the Second World War. NATO leaders are scrambling to find solutions to assist Ukraine without the US and will come up with workarounds. One answer might be through EUFOR, an entity the US does not participate in. In addition, allies will stop sharing critical intelligence with the US.


So, when was Donald J. Trumpf recruited by the Kremlin?


What a Trumpf Tower in Russia might look like.

Many theories have propagated about how and when Donald Trumpf became an asset for the Kremlin. One theory is that Russian intelligence holds compromising and damaging information on the 47th President (kompramat). In the 2016 election, Trumpf didn’t hesitate to publicly invoke the assistance of Russia or Wikileaks: “Russia, if you’re listening now….”

Wikileaks then published damaging information about Hillary Clinton. Another theory is the KGB recruited Trumpf in 1977 who saw him as an “exploitable target”. In 1987 after returning from Russia with his wife Ivana, Trumpf ran political advertisements critical of US foreign policy that was detrimental to the USSR.




One investigative journalist alleged that Donald Trumpf was a Confidential Informant (“CI”) for the FBI, coughing up an occasional Russian or Italian mobster in NYC while making money with them. In the 1980s and 90s, Trumpf’s greatest legal exposure was his dealings with the Russian mafia in NYC. This theory explains why many of Trumpf’s associates were convicted of crimes in NYC back then, while nothing happened to him other than declaring business bankruptcies.

After his arrest on 11 Dec 1990, mobster Sammy “the Bull” Gravano turned state’s evidence to help convict godfather John Gotti, his nominal boss. The lead prosecutor of the case was Robert Swan Mueller III. When Trumpf found out Mueller was named Special Counsel to investigate him, he collapsed into a chair and muttered, “I’m f*cked.” This theory also explains why Trumpf is purging both the FBI and government records wherever possible.



Russian-American mobster, convicted felon, and former Donald Trumpf associate Felix Sater became an informant for the FBI and testified unsatisfactorily to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HSPIC).




Whenever Trumpf was recruited by the Kremlin remains unclear, despite all of the official and unofficial investigations conducted over the past several years. What is clear, is that Trumpf and the Republican’s white supremacist philosophy aligns with that of Vladimir Putin, in addition to their shared commitment to wealthy oligarchs.


Vladimir Lenin’s term for these two were “useful idiots.” When Trumpf and DOGE cut their Medicare and social security benefits, who will these two geriatrics blame?



In 2018, Vladimir Putin arrogantly escorted his cultivated intelligence asset in Helsinki, Finland. Both conferred without bodyguards or interpreters around them as Putin’s English is more than just passable (and he is fluent in German).

Sources:

https://investigaterussia.org/

https://www.dni.gov/files/HPSCI_Transcripts/2020-05-04-Felix_Sater-MTR_Redacted.pdf

https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-cultivating-trump-asset-40-years-says-ex-kgb-spy-2021-1

https://intelligence.house.gov/

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kgb-spy-russia/

https://gregolear.substack.com/p/tinker-tailor-mobster-trump











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sop

(13,822 posts)
1. I posted about this years ago:
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 07:48 PM
Feb 17

"One investigative journalist alleged that Donald Trumpf was a Confidential Informant ('CI') for the FBI, coughing up an occasional Russian or Italian mobster in NYC while making money with them. In the 1980s and 90s, Trumpf’s greatest legal exposure was his dealings with the Russian mafia in NYC. This theory explains why many of Trumpf’s associates were convicted of crimes in NYC back then, while nothing happened to him other than declaring business bankruptcies."

Before he was first elected there were numerous stories available on various web sites discussingTrump's rumoured CI work for government prosecutors, and his long-standing ties to the NY mob and Russian gangsters, but in recent years I can't seem to find any of that information, it all seems to have been scrubbed. Trump's seemingly untouchable legal status over the years is probably tied to all this.

sop

(13,822 posts)
9. It's been so long ago, I don't remember the sources. Probably the same ones mentioned in your article.
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 10:02 PM
Feb 17

Stories about Trump's CI activities were floating around back then. The rumor was he helped the government put away a number of his organized crime associates in NYC over the years, and in return the government looked the other way and ignored his questionable activities. Trump got away with a lot of stuff, he always seemed untouchable, and people wondered if he'd been given immunity for his cooperation.

stillcool

(33,677 posts)
2. Fascinating stuff
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 07:53 PM
Feb 17

The goings-on between New York and New Jersey among the real-estate ie trump, and construction ie the mob, was business as usual, and a lot of it. The money that got funneled through the federal government to build low-income housing, city/state contracts and what-not, filled very deep pockets. Then Donald turned on his New Jersey affiliates, and Rudy Guiliani got the biggest win of his career as NY Attorney General.

stillcool

(33,677 posts)
8. I understand how you can make a killing in real estate
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 08:51 PM
Feb 17

and basic pyramid schemes.....but money-laundering, off shore banking, dummy corporations...there's some lack of reading comprehension I have, which is very frustrating. Like the 9 million...who gets it? And who has it on their books? It seems like someone is being taken to the cleaners for 9 million.

C0RI0LANUS

(3,015 posts)
10. Here are some sources about this.
Tue Feb 18, 2025, 02:01 AM
Feb 18

A Russian oligarch pays Trumpf $10m for a $1m property in the US. The money (or the value of that money) is now in the US. That oligarch then pays Trumpf $1m for a separate $15m property in the US. The oligarch sells that $15m property in the US. The oligarch has made money selling properties while Trumpf takes a cut for each transaction.

Sources:

https://condowizard.ca/how-money-laundering-in-real-estate-works/

https://complyadvantage.com/insights/real-estate-money-laundering/

https://www.icij.org/investigations/fincen-files/with-deutsche-banks-help-an-oligarchs-buying-spree-trails-ruin-across-the-us-heartland/

viva la

(4,059 posts)
4. His first wife Ivana got a suspiciously easy exit out of Czechoslovakia-
Mon Feb 17, 2025, 08:01 PM
Feb 17

back when many defectors had to use elaborate measures to get out of the Soviet bloc.

She married some Austrian guy for about 5 minutes, moved to Europe, moved to Canada, maybe walked across the border and lived illegally in the US until she met and married Trump.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/29/trump-czechoslovakia-communism-spying

Czechoslovakia’s Státní bezpečnost (StB) carried out a long-term spying mission against Trump following his marriage in 1977 to his first wife, Ivana Zelníčková. The operation was run out of Zlín, the provincial town in south-west Czechoslovakia where Zelníčková was born and grew up.

Ivana’s father, Miloš Zelníček, gave regular information to the local StB office about his daughter’s visits from the US and on his celebrity son-in-law’s career in New York. Zelníček was classified as a “conspiratorial” informer. His relationship with the StB lasted until the end of the communist regime.

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