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lees1975

(6,433 posts)
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 04:04 PM Feb 19

Holding Out for a Hero, Democrats need bold, fearless, risk-taking leadership now

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2025/02/holding-out-for-hero-democrats-need.html

The Trump administration is slowly dismantling the government, based on populist premises that government is overly wasteful, not only spending too much money but that the treasury is just paying out without accountability, every potential government program for the benefit of people, from social security and medicare to USAID is rife with fraud and Trump is going to save the taxpayers trillions by letting Elon Musk turn off the tap, because he supposedly knows how.

This is all one big lie. It appeals to what people believe, coming out of all of the conspiracy theory talk that flourishes on the political right, among people who tend to be less educated, more ignorant and easily gullible. Some people tend to believe ridiculous things, like we spent $50 million on condoms for people in Gaza, which is another big lie that they directly spread, or that there are literally millions of social security checks going to people who are over 100 years old, yet another lie. Conservatives must have a straw-man to knock down, an obscure, nebulous "enemy" to fight against, one that is conspiring to remake the world on their own terms and has the tech savvy, know how and support to drive this worldwide conspiracy against the "regular white guy."

It's not like we didn't know this was coming. He told us. Democratic party leadership labelled him an existential threat to democracy years ago. But I question, really, whether they took that as seriously as those of us who observed, who saw what he did and intended to do on January 6th, what he said and how he said it. If they did, then more effort would have been put into getting him to trial for insurrection against the United States, which is the crime he committed. Some risks would have been taken. It would have been worth it to break the filibuster, and it would have been worth it to pack the court. Those would have been big risks, but looking at what we're facing now, finding solutions to live with the consequences would have been a lot better than having to endure the damage to the country of a second Trump Presidency, including some real doubts about whether the Constitution and democracy will surivive.

And here, on this side of where we are, what have we got? Nothing, that I see. If we didn't have leaders who were willing to risk a few things to make it happen when we had the power to do it, we aren't going to have any now who will risk it. Right now, protecting their own interests is the priority.


The first thing that is on the agenda is to win three Congressional seats that will give Democrats a razor thin majority in the House, where most of this can be stopped. Maybe I need to look in a different place, but I don't seem to be seeing a concerted effort to make this happen. These are special elections, and turnout will determine the outcomes. What is the Democratic party doing to ensure that its voters turn out in record numbers in these three very winnable districts?

I still see appeals for money coming from the Harris campaign, from other Democrats who are almost two years away from the next election, and all kinds of cross purposes and self interest. Apparently, Democrats running for election in those districts are on their own to win. And if they're not, then show me the evidence that sets this straight. The Republicans are so afraid of what could happen, they're slow-walking the appointment of Elise Stefanik, in the hopes of delaying a special election there. The 2024 election is over, we have three more seats in Congress opening up, and that's where our money and attention should be going.

I might be willing to provide a few campaign contributions in the direction of Harris if she had taken up the mantle of party leadership in the wake of this razor thin election, but she went home to California, Tim Walz went back to Minnesota, and we haven't heard much from either of them lately. He wants to run for Senate. Well, then, get out in front of this and provide us with some leadership. My Governor sure is taking steps to resist this.

I'd like to send my contributions where it will do the most good.


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Holding Out for a Hero, Democrats need bold, fearless, risk-taking leadership now (Original Post) lees1975 Feb 19 OP
No money till I see a winning strategy Raven123 Feb 19 #1
Ten more just like him...Bernie Sanders, that is. lees1975 Feb 19 #2
I agree. I honestly think he is the best messenger Raven123 Feb 19 #4
And I think the town hall approach is a good one. alarimer Feb 20 #13
Republicans hold Progressive dog Feb 19 #3
Yes, they do. lees1975 Feb 19 #6
My reply to the latest money beg usonian Feb 19 #5
I like the list... lees1975 Feb 19 #7
But who? usonian Feb 19 #8
After his state of the state speech today, calling out every Trumpie Republican in Illinois for their fascism, lees1975 Feb 19 #9
That's great. usonian Feb 19 #10
Everybody be nice and quiet, and he won't eat you dalton99a Feb 20 #11
The first thing is a job review for all incumbents officeholders. AmericaUnderSiege Feb 20 #12

lees1975

(6,433 posts)
2. Ten more just like him...Bernie Sanders, that is.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 04:30 PM
Feb 19
It will take pressure from Democrats in ways they haven't ever even dreamed of using. Clear messaging and getting inside the Republican misinformation silos won't be easy, but boy, what damage could a solid, simple, understandable message do to his political chances? The way misinformation flies through that network, think what well-placed, simple truth can do. But it will take Democrats becoming leaders, learning how to deliver a clear message and being believeable. I don't know if we have anyone in Congress capable, or willing, to take that kind of risk. But that is what it will take.

During the height of the opioid crisis, just following the 2016 election, Bernie Sanders made a speaking appearance in Welch, West Virginia, a town hard hit by the crisis. Welch is the county seat of McDowell County, deep red in a deep red state. It is an impoverished place, employment once booming because of coal, now depressed as thousands have moved away, replaced by jobs at a state pentitentiary and federal correctional institute, it is one of the most desperately depressed economic areas in the state.

Sanders, very out of place as a liberal, Jewish Senator in a county buried in the West Virginia mountains, along with Chris Hayes of MSNBC, delivered a message that resonated with the people there. Sanders has a knack for this, and while he's getting up there in years, he is one Democrat who doesn't back down, and doesn't count the political cost before he makes a decision. This is what we need. And while people don't like him, and might disagree, it's tough to argue with his success. He tells it like it is.

We need ten more just like him.


https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/bernie-sanders-in-trump-country-1288729155643

Raven123

(6,614 posts)
4. I agree. I honestly think he is the best messenger
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 04:52 PM
Feb 19

Full of facts which he clearly and concisely expresses.

 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
13. And I think the town hall approach is a good one.
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 11:31 AM
Feb 20

Especially outside of blue states (but we need it too). It gets outside the useless media.

It might even reach disaffected Trump voters (I'm not sure about this).

Progressive dog

(7,461 posts)
3. Republicans hold
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 04:37 PM
Feb 19

the Senate, the House, and the Presidency. If they hang together, Democrats will need much more than a slim house majority to repair the damage.
Right now, we are dependent on the courts to make them play by the rules set by the Constitution and laws already in place.

lees1975

(6,433 posts)
6. Yes, they do.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 05:12 PM
Feb 19

So Democrats are going to have to do more than the typical partisan gridlock strategy. They will have to find enough Republicans to convince how dangerous this guy is and that he's committed enough crimes for him to have to go and not come back.

That's three in the house. Four in the senate, 17 to make an impeachment stick.

That seems like a lot. It will require some risks and some bold moves. It will require getting inside the GOP media silo and telling the truth and putting the pressure on them.

How important is it? Or should I say, what is more important, saving democracy or preserving one's own power.

usonian

(17,254 posts)
5. My reply to the latest money beg
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 04:58 PM
Feb 19
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20044107

ACT FIRST, and then I send money.

The silence of democratic leaders is an abomination. While the country is being destroyed.

"Silence is complicity" ... Joe Biden.

🔥🔥🔥 lots more there. 🔥🔥🔥

I pay good money to keep my door hinges silent. (love that WD-40)
NOT MY PARTY LEADERS IN TIME OF PERIL


and my suggestions for REAL leaders, not people remaining silent while the country is being torn down
https://www.democraticunderground.com/13241934

Sanders is high on that list.
But not number 1 (no spoiler, go see )

There's also a lot more there on the nature of the sociopathic plan we are up against.

WE NEED A MODERN KING AND LEWIS
NOT MARTIN AND LEWIS.



lees1975

(6,433 posts)
7. I like the list...
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 08:00 PM
Feb 19

but I think this will be the kind of time when someone like an FDR comes forward.

usonian

(17,254 posts)
8. But who?
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 09:19 PM
Feb 19

Thanks for the reply.

I posted an image from the fantasy film "FDR, American Badass" and caught flak for reasons to do with his faults (like internment camps, a horrible and detestable decision) I suspect, from the trolling, that it was the infamous Brooklynite under another nom de plume.

Anyway, here's the pic, with Barry Bostwick of "Rocky Horror Picture Show" fame as Brad (who can forget Brad and Janet?)



Just to say, that's the kind of energy that's needed.

It's not that great charisma is needed. What's needed is whatever it takes to

• Unite
• Organize effectively, and
• Inspire

Ability to pull others in who belatedly figured out that they'd been horribly scammed (and who own up to their mistake) is a big plus.

Whatever "future political considerations" people have that holds them back is moot to me.

Unless this Hitler is stopped, there is no political arena left.

Every day lost in silence and every little concession gives the dark force more power.

There's no time like right now to stop it.

My time machine says so. Read history and learn or read history and repeat it.

P.S. FDR's floating white house, the USS Potomac, is tied up and fully operational at Jack London Square in Oakland, CA.
I have visited it. Perhaps people need to take a little time trip to remind themselves how precious our democracy is and how hard people fought to preserve it, rather than destroy it.

lees1975

(6,433 posts)
9. After his state of the state speech today, calling out every Trumpie Republican in Illinois for their fascism,
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 10:11 PM
Feb 19

I'd say J. D. Pritzker, my governor, is near the top of the list.

usonian

(17,254 posts)
10. That's great.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 10:59 PM
Feb 19

I don’t hear much about your governor here in California.

That could change!

Thanks.

 

AmericaUnderSiege

(777 posts)
12. The first thing is a job review for all incumbents officeholders.
Thu Feb 20, 2025, 08:33 AM
Feb 20

Last edited Fri Feb 21, 2025, 01:11 PM - Edit history (1)

Give our incumbents some short number of months to show something justifying their current positions - anything extraordinary and appropriate for these times. Everyone who merely rides the status quo, offers impotent rhetoric in place of quality moives, or whines that they're powerless gets asked to resign, provided that won't switch the seat.

Anyone too weak to do the job they asked for and were given, and now fail to do even the least of it in dire circumstances, the proper response is ostracism until they resign.

Do that, real leaders emerged.

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