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At Least Now We Know the Truth About Trump and Vance
At Least Now We Know the Truth About Trump and Vance
David Frum
Its ugly, but necessary to face.
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February 28, 2025, 2:17 PM ET
At least the Oval Office meeting held by President Donald Trump and Vice President J. D. Vance with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was held in front of the cameras. False friendliness in public by Trump and Vance, followed by behind-the-scenes treachery, would have been much more dangerous to the Ukrainian cause.
Instead, Trump and Vance have revealed to Americans and to Americas allies their alignment with Russia, and their animosity toward Ukraine in general and its president in particular. The truth is ugly, but its necessary to face it.
Todays meeting gave the lie to any claim that this administrations policy is driven by any strategic effort to advance the interests of the United States, however misguided. Trump and Vance displayed in the Oval Office a highly personal hatred. There was no effort here to make a case for American interests. Vance complained that Zelensky had traveled to Pennsylvania to thank U.S. ammunition workers, because, Vance charged, the appearance amounted to campaigning for the Democratic presidential ticket. Let me tell you, Putin went through a hell of a lot with me, Trump angrily explained. He went through a phony witch hunt where they used him and Russia, Russia, Russia.
David Frum
Its ugly, but necessary to face.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/KW7OlSAql9l4vaqhlXrfgPpSDko=/0x0:2700x1519/960x540/media/img/mt/2025/02/2025_02_28_zelensky_frum_AZ_-1/original.jpg
ABACA / Reuters
February 28, 2025, 2:17 PM ET
At least the Oval Office meeting held by President Donald Trump and Vice President J. D. Vance with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was held in front of the cameras. False friendliness in public by Trump and Vance, followed by behind-the-scenes treachery, would have been much more dangerous to the Ukrainian cause.
Instead, Trump and Vance have revealed to Americans and to Americas allies their alignment with Russia, and their animosity toward Ukraine in general and its president in particular. The truth is ugly, but its necessary to face it.
Todays meeting gave the lie to any claim that this administrations policy is driven by any strategic effort to advance the interests of the United States, however misguided. Trump and Vance displayed in the Oval Office a highly personal hatred. There was no effort here to make a case for American interests. Vance complained that Zelensky had traveled to Pennsylvania to thank U.S. ammunition workers, because, Vance charged, the appearance amounted to campaigning for the Democratic presidential ticket. Let me tell you, Putin went through a hell of a lot with me, Trump angrily explained. He went through a phony witch hunt where they used him and Russia, Russia, Russia.
More at: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/02/least-now-we-know-truth-about-trump-and-vance/681872/
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At Least Now We Know the Truth About Trump and Vance (Original Post)
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Feb 28
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RussBLib
(9,863 posts)1. and of course, "Russia, Russia, Russia" turned out to be real espionage to help Trump
....but we knew that. Trump sure can juggle a lot of lies at the same time. I'm not that good at lying.
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lees1975
(6,433 posts)2. Nothing new to see here. We've known Trump and anyone who sucks up to him like Vance, are Russian stooges.
We've known this since the justice department failed to prosecute Trump on the evidence of the Mueller Investigation. We've known it since Trump incited an insurrection against the United States and we went four years and failed to prosecute it, partly because our justice department is an absolute mess of cross purposes and set up to favor rich defendants who can file endless delaying motions and partly because no one has the backbone to confront this and do something about it.