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Does anyone claudette Jun 26 #1
Can't the Washington Post just worry about all the challenges and politics in its own area and leave NY alone? Janbdwl72 Jun 26 #2
It's not up to them. think4yourself Jun 26 #3
Thanks, WAPOO. Thanks so much for 'splaining why a Democratic victory is bad for Democrats. tanyev Jun 26 #4
Ahhhh...he's a socialist, not a Democrat. Big difference. No transit fares, city-owned grocery stores... brush Jun 26 #9
one suspects the soviets were hardly socialist. they, like the nazis, just used the buzz word nt msongs Jun 26 #14
Wrong. Nazi/fascists are on the opposite extemes of the political spectrum than socialists/communists. brush Jun 26 #16
history? the official name of the Nazis was the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP) msongs Jun 26 #18
They were fascists despite the name, along with Mussolini of Italy and Franco of Spain. brush Jun 26 #22
Actually if memory serves, Germany invaded Soviet Union in the beginning of June. Dan Jun 26 #20
True, too late thougth to conquer the USSR...all Eleven time zones of it. brush Jun 26 #23
The soviets were communists, a form of socialism. The Nazis/fascists were not socialist... brush Jun 26 #30
You think he will be better than Adams? displacedvermoter Jun 26 #27
Post removed Post removed Jun 26 #28
He is a Democratic Socialist, whathehell Jun 26 #32
Mamdani is the presumptive Democratic nominee SSJVegeta Jun 26 #5
He's a socialist, not a Democrat. brush Jun 26 #10
Hes both ;) SSJVegeta Jun 26 #12
A democratic socialist is not a Democrat. Google demoratic socialist of America. brush Jun 26 #13
A democratic socialist who has the Democratic nomination and registered as dem SSJVegeta Jun 26 #15
Many of his expressed policies are straight out of the Democratic Socialist Party of America. brush Jun 26 #17
...still a registered Dem who received the Democratic nomination SSJVegeta Jun 26 #19
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Being a Democrat is a party, not an ideology. SSJVegeta Jun 26 #26
It ultimately comes down to two parties in the United States. Gore1FL Jun 26 #29
Exactly. SSJVegeta Jun 26 #31
WaPo is birdcage liner at this point Ritabert Jun 26 #6
Except for Carolyn Hax Lulu KC Jun 26 #11
I don't know her but I'll look her up. Ritabert Jun 26 #25
Mary Duenwald, Stephen Stromberg, Robert Gebelhoff, James Hohmann, Megan McArdle, Eduardo Porter and Keith B. Richburg Celerity Jun 26 #7
Hey, Jeff, now that you've bought Venice, why not tell them how to run their government? Ocelot II Jun 26 #8
Trying to please their boss Bozos. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 26 #21
After all, Jeffy has already decreed... regnaD kciN Jun 26 #33

Janbdwl72

(219 posts)
2. Can't the Washington Post just worry about all the challenges and politics in its own area and leave NY alone?
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 06:10 PM
Jun 26

brush

(61,018 posts)
9. Ahhhh...he's a socialist, not a Democrat. Big difference. No transit fares, city-owned grocery stores...
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 07:12 PM
Jun 26

Come on, capital/money has to circulate in a capitalist society or it fails. There is no extant socialist society that is successful, nor has there ever been.

Troktsky. Lenin, Stalin, Khruschev, Brezhnev tried it. All failed. Gorbechov tried to. reform it but was forced out by drunkard Yeltsin, only to yield to whatever Putin is.

Socialism/communism doesn't work. Let's not fool ourselves. Societies work by quality products and services being created and their creators get compensated for their time, labor and creativity by charging a reasonable profit for themselves.

msongs

(72,199 posts)
14. one suspects the soviets were hardly socialist. they, like the nazis, just used the buzz word nt
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 07:25 PM
Jun 26

brush

(61,018 posts)
16. Wrong. Nazi/fascists are on the opposite extemes of the political spectrum than socialists/communists.
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 07:30 PM
Jun 26

Fascist Hitler stupidly invaded Russia too late in the year and the Russian winter, as well as the Soviets defeated him.

So many don't seem to know much about history here. Disappointing.

msongs

(72,199 posts)
18. history? the official name of the Nazis was the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP)
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 07:34 PM
Jun 26

brush

(61,018 posts)
22. They were fascists despite the name, along with Mussolini of Italy and Franco of Spain.
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 08:13 PM
Jun 26

Last edited Thu Jun 26, 2025, 08:44 PM - Edit history (1)

Here is the well know motto of socialists.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs "

The Party/government owns the means of production...everything. No private ownership in business to make profits.

That is Karl Marx's description/theory of socialism, free access to and distribution of goods, capital and services.

Hugo Boss Was an Active Nazi Who Produced Uniforms For the Brown Shirts, SS, and Hitler Youth. In 2013, comedian Russell Brand was kicked out of a GQ magazine’s Men of the Year Awards shindig, after cracking jokes about the event’s sponsor, Hugo Boss, and its Nazi ties.

Volkswagen Was Founded by Ferdinand Porsche, and the Cute Beetle Was Hitler’s Dream Car.

BMW’s Owners Were Hitler’s Close Friends. Ever since its founding, Bavarian Motor Works, or BMW, have been known for their high quality luxury automobiles, and until 1945, for their aircraft engines.

Thyssen, Krupp, IG Farben, Bosch, Blaupunkt, Daimler-Benz, Demag, Henschel, Junkers, Messerschmitt, Philips, Siemens and Walther were. all were private industristrialists in business to make a profit. That doesn't exist in socialist societies, communism is a form of socialism btw so ya can't be fooled by the nazi's title for themselves.


May 8, 2019 · Memory of Nazi crimes associated with big business and industrialists was thus relatively short lived within postwar Germany, with many corporations only apologizing to or repatriating Jewish victims years or decades after the atrocities of the Holocaust.
assets.cambridge.org › 97805218 › 03298Business and Politics: Banks and Companies in Nazi Germany

brush

(61,018 posts)
23. True, too late thougth to conquer the USSR...all Eleven time zones of it.
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 08:20 PM
Jun 26

I'm sure you've seen photos of the hundreds of thousands Germany troops, starving and freezing captured by the Soviets because, like someone we know, Hitler knew better than his generals and started the invasion too late and on top of that he divided his forces into three salients.

brush

(61,018 posts)
30. The soviets were communists, a form of socialism. The Nazis/fascists were not socialist...
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 08:56 PM
Jun 26

despite their title for themselves.

They were fascists despite the name, along with Mussolini of Italy and Franco of Spain.
5:13 P

Here is the well know motto of socialists.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", by Karl Marx who theorized socialism in the 19th century.

The Party/government owns the means of production...everything. No private ownership in business to make profits.

That is Karl Marx's description/theory of socialism, free access to and distribution of goods, capital and services.

Hugo Boss Was an Active Nazi Who Produced Uniforms For the Brown Shirts, SS, and Hitler Youth. In 2013, comedian Russell Brand was kicked out of a GQ magazine’s Men of the Year Awards shindig, after cracking jokes about the event’s sponsor, Hugo Boss, and its Nazi ties.

Volkswagen Was Founded by Ferdinand Porsche, and the Cute Beetle Was Hitler’s Dream Car.

BMW’s Owners Were Hitler’s Close Friends. Ever since its founding, Bavarian Motor Works, or BMW, have been known for their high quality luxury automobiles, and until 1945, for their aircraft engines.

Thyssen, Krupp, IG Farben, Bosch, Blaupunkt, Daimler-Benz, Demag, Henschel, Junkers, Messerschmitt, Philips, Siemens and Walther were. all were private industristrialists in business to make a profit. That doesn't exist in socialist societies, communism is a form of socialism btw so ya can't be fooled by the nazi's title for themselves.


Response to displacedvermoter (Reply #27)

whathehell

(30,249 posts)
32. He is a Democratic Socialist,
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 09:01 PM
Jun 26

something successfully practised by a number of our European allies. It is not pure "Socialism" and a very far cry from "Communism".

brush

(61,018 posts)
13. A democratic socialist is not a Democrat. Google demoratic socialist of America.
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 07:24 PM
Jun 26

Their more in the vein of socialists/communists. The rethugs are writing their campaign ads as we speak.

SSJVegeta

(1,304 posts)
15. A democratic socialist who has the Democratic nomination and registered as dem
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 07:26 PM
Jun 26

... is in fact a dem

brush

(61,018 posts)
17. Many of his expressed policies are straight out of the Democratic Socialist Party of America.
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 07:33 PM
Jun 26

Look it up. Democrats are capitalists as we live in a capitalist society.

SSJVegeta

(1,304 posts)
19. ...still a registered Dem who received the Democratic nomination
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 07:45 PM
Jun 26

Look it up

He also was ENDORSED by the Democratic Socialists of America.

He was even endorsed by The Working Families Party. But you know what?

He is still a registered Democrat who received the Democratic nomination and is running as a DEMOCRAT

Response to SSJVegeta (Reply #19)

SSJVegeta

(1,304 posts)
26. Being a Democrat is a party, not an ideology.
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 08:43 PM
Jun 26

There have been Democrats who are right wing white supremacists like George Wallace innthe 60s, and other Democrats who have identified as Democratic Socialists like AOC.

Trying to put them in an ideological box is just plain silly.

He is both a member of the Democratic Party and ideologically a social democrat -of which FDR implemented major policies like the New Deal resembled.

Gore1FL

(22,579 posts)
29. It ultimately comes down to two parties in the United States.
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 08:48 PM
Jun 26

We simply build our coalitions before the elections rather than after.

SSJVegeta

(1,304 posts)
31. Exactly.
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 08:57 PM
Jun 26

Beyond labels, there are certain strategies that tend to build larger coalitions.

When the anger among the vast vast majority of Americans is so palpable against all of the establishment, providing a solution for addressing why that angers exists and abandoning the unpopular establishment policies with reasonable level headed ones (like taxing the rich and providing alternative ways of obtaining prohibitively expensive basic necessities), is probably best.

Celerity

(51,665 posts)
7. Mary Duenwald, Stephen Stromberg, Robert Gebelhoff, James Hohmann, Megan McArdle, Eduardo Porter and Keith B. Richburg
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 06:29 PM
Jun 26
can go sod off.

Ocelot II

(126,783 posts)
8. Hey, Jeff, now that you've bought Venice, why not tell them how to run their government?
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 06:35 PM
Jun 26

You don't own NYC, though, so STFU. Anyhow, I thought you told us WaPo had decided to stop opining about politicians.

regnaD kciN

(27,227 posts)
33. After all, Jeffy has already decreed...
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 09:02 PM
Jun 26

…that the WaPo’s editorial page must support “free-market capitalism.” Is it surprising they’d be required by their boss to oppose Mamdani?

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