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Dulcinea

(9,468 posts)
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 08:34 AM Tuesday

Here's what's in the Senate deal to end the government shutdown

(CBS News) Washington — The Senate took a major step toward ending the government shutdown late Monday by passing a funding bill that unlocks a broader agreement on long-term spending and the promise of a future vote on extending health care tax credits.

The vote was 60-40, with eight Democrats providing the votes needed. One Republican voted against it.

The eight Democrats had been engaged in bipartisan talks over ending the stalemate for several weeks, and reached the agreement without the support of the party's leaders in the upper chamber. The House could vote on the bill as early as Wednesday, and if it passes, it will go to President Trump's desk.

The agreement they struck does nothing to address the expiring health care tax credits — which had been their party's key demand — besides the promise of a future vote on the issue. The deal left many Democrats furious with the eight senators who voted to advance it and with the party's leaders for allowing the defections.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/heres-whats-senate-deal-end-164331956.html

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Here's what's in the Senate deal to end the government shutdown (Original Post) Dulcinea Tuesday OP
Jeanne Shaheen stated that Schumer knew what they were doing. gab13by13 Tuesday #1
She never said anything implying that he didn't oppose the move. FBaggins Tuesday #5
Well, the fact that the "eight" were picked for a particular reason is very telling. hamsterjill Tuesday #9
They should also be furious choie Tuesday #2
God, that is pitiful. Scrivener7 Tuesday #3
Krasnov was going to lose his appeal to the Supreme Court to only partially fund SNAP. gab13by13 Tuesday #4
Why would KBJ block the lower court if that were the case? FBaggins Tuesday #6
That's not exactly what happened. ... littlemissmartypants Tuesday #12
I've read the sources. It's all over the map... FBaggins Tuesday #14
Why are you replying to me? littlemissmartypants Tuesday #15
It seemed polite since you replied to me FBaggins Tuesday #16
I mean, we appear to agree here. So, I'm already... littlemissmartypants Tuesday #17
Apologies - I must have misread it. FBaggins Tuesday #21
Closing the loop on that one FBaggins Thursday #22
Everyone in Congress... 2naSalit Tuesday #7
The budget default should be automatic renewal IbogaProject Tuesday #8
I'm seeing on social media that Democrats agreed to include a provision for a national abortion ban hamsterjill Tuesday #10
It Wasn't A Clean Bill DallasNE Tuesday #11
There's much in this "package" that nobody is talking about as moniss Tuesday #13
Americans were supposed to get $5,000 in DOGE money -- which was never paid out. Why didn't our D in2herbs Tuesday #18
So the only things they (dems) got in this agreement Figarosmom Tuesday #19
Hey, yahoo, and other nitwit media: 7 Dems. 1 Ind. niyad Tuesday #20

gab13by13

(30,700 posts)
1. Jeanne Shaheen stated that Schumer knew what they were doing.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 08:47 AM
Tuesday

The members of her committee advised him regularly.

hamsterjill

(16,847 posts)
9. Well, the fact that the "eight" were picked for a particular reason is very telling.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 01:58 PM
Tuesday

Mainly that none of them face a primary in 2026. Am I right? Am I wrong?

choie

(6,413 posts)
2. They should also be furious
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 08:47 AM
Tuesday

With Schumer who is complicit, if not the leader of this move.

gab13by13

(30,700 posts)
4. Krasnov was going to lose his appeal to the Supreme Court to only partially fund SNAP.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 09:30 AM
Tuesday

The decision could have come as early as this week.

littlemissmartypants

(30,918 posts)
12. That's not exactly what happened. ...
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:25 PM
Tuesday

It's much more nuanced than that. She did something very strategic and there are plenty of sources that explain the importance of her very good ruling.

FBaggins

(28,593 posts)
14. I've read the sources. It's all over the map...
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:36 PM
Tuesday

... but the once constant is that she knew if she passed it to the full court for consideration (or tried to allow the lower court's ruling to stand), the full court would block the order.

I've seen no speculation from a knowledgeable source indicating that SCOTUS would force the administration to fund SNAP beyond the normal funding that Congress had provided (and which had run out).

littlemissmartypants

(30,918 posts)
17. I mean, we appear to agree here. So, I'm already...
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:59 PM
Tuesday

Convinced that KBJ was between a rock and a hard place and did the best she could with what she had.

She likely was more measured and discerning than others may have been given the same situation.

Some here however, may see things as more either/or.

The decision escaped the boundaries of a purely up or down ruling. I'm not sure how many others realize that.

FBaggins

(28,593 posts)
22. Closing the loop on that one
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 11:48 AM
Thursday

SCOTUS extended KBJ's pause while the political process ran (over KBJ's solo objection)... and the issue is likely now moot.

2naSalit

(98,980 posts)
7. Everyone in Congress...
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:32 PM
Tuesday

Shouldn't be paid while there is a shutdown or allowed to eat while people are not allowed to use their SNAP benefits which, I will add, takes fourteen contorted runarounds, an elaborate hoop dance followed by a continuous performance of the dance of the seven fucking veils just to see if you qualify.

And if you do, you have to do the hoop dance every 6 months to remain qualified.

I, personally, have qualified for SNAP since before I retired but once I started receiving SSDI I dropped it. It was too much bullshit to go through for $40/month. I can find $40 for food if I actually have a little money ...and others need it far more than I do so I decided I wouldn't bother.

But I KNOW all that goes into proving you qualify and remain qualified and it's not easy by any stretch of the imagination. If half the people who complain about SNAP beneficiaries had to go through all that bullshit, they'd think differently about it.

IbogaProject

(5,432 posts)
8. The budget default should be automatic renewal
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 01:52 PM
Tuesday

Belgium went years with their parlanent in a deadlock, they just adjusted the old buget up for inflation. The cliff should only be on mechanations. If congress takes too long they can then take all year for the next budget.

hamsterjill

(16,847 posts)
10. I'm seeing on social media that Democrats agreed to include a provision for a national abortion ban
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:03 PM
Tuesday

Any truth to that? Because somehow, it wouldn't surprise me at this point.

The relevance would be whether ACA coverage included abortion or after care of an abortion that didn't go well. The "pro-lifers" would gladly watch a woman suffer and die if she had gone through an abortion and needed medical care.

DallasNE

(7,925 posts)
11. It Wasn't A Clean Bill
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:05 PM
Tuesday

What happened to the language Sen. Paul objected to on Marijuana and the retroactive bill to allow 6 Senators to sue the federal government over some J6 issues? There may have been others, too, that I didn't hear about.

moniss

(8,411 posts)
13. There's much in this "package" that nobody is talking about as
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:27 PM
Tuesday

you pointed out. I would expect that if people look there are some nice "goodies" for the 8 who turned yellow and defected.

in2herbs

(4,069 posts)
18. Americans were supposed to get $5,000 in DOGE money -- which was never paid out. Why didn't our D
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 04:44 PM
Tuesday

lawmakers raise this issue before the shutdown and demand this money before the fight about re-opening the govt?

If the average SNAP payment is $400/month (this is a high figure) by getting this $5,000 of DOGE money every American receiving SNAP payments could be assured of not going hungry for a year and our lawmakers would not have caved to the Rs.



Figarosmom

(9,122 posts)
19. So the only things they (dems) got in this agreement
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 05:56 PM
Tuesday

We're things that the courts already restored ( SNAP benifits)and things that were already law.(paying back pay of furloughed employees) and all the layoffs I'm sure would have won in courts for reinstatement.

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