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lees1975

(6,864 posts)
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 12:28 AM Nov 13

If we thought Trump's involvement with Epstein was "The Thing" we've been waiting for, get ready to be disappointed

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2025/11/if-thought-that-trumps-involvement-with.html

I really wish all the hype and speculation about the Epstein files would be the silver bullet that Democrats and the Trump opposition has been waiting for to bring him down. Frankly, I wish the gross incompetence he showed when he completely botched his first term in office would have been enough to convince a majority of Americans that a moral degenerate, egomaniac, psychopath should not be allowed anywhere near the White House. But our country is neither as educated or sophisticated as it likes to think that it is, and we frankly do not have an electorate capable of understanding how elections and Constitutional democracy go hand in hand.

Trump and his apologists, which include some lovely criminals like Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller, among other thugs and assorted human refuse, have been working for more than a decade to make his record of association with Epstein go away. Not an easy job, considering the number of people involved who were eyewitnesses and the written documentation that was kept. They were willing to wait, and bide their time until Epstein came under the direct custody of the justice department, and attorney general Bill Barr, to knock him off and make it look like suicide, or to help him succeed with the job when he failed the first time. They've erased or made things disappear for the entire time that it has been an issue, and when Democrats got control of Congress and the Presidency in 2021, they thought they'd had it.

Who knew that Merrick Garland and the justice department appointed by President Biden would do so little about it? I'm still furious over that whole set of absolute fiascos of total disregard of the rule of law. So my guess is that what's left of the files will be underwhelming, as far as their ability to produce any kind of real reaction. And they pulled that off right under the Democratic leadership in Washington's nose.


And so the remaining question is whether or not this will bother enough of the Trump opposition, and enough Democrats, for them to be willing to put some of their own political careers on the line to save the country from the reputation of having a chief executive who rapes children. Himming and hawing, and trying to discuss a plan is going to get them run over by a mob demanding justice.

So will this make enough of our political leadership disturbed,, sickened and enraged enough to actually do something about it. That's the bottom line question.

Frankly, I don't think there's going to be enough there to do the trick. So tell me I'm wrong.
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If we thought Trump's involvement with Epstein was "The Thing" we've been waiting for, get ready to be disappointed (Original Post) lees1975 Nov 13 OP
I agree with you. Wifes husband Nov 13 #1
It the shiny object to keep our attention while rome burns. nt yaesu Nov 13 #2
The E. Jean Carroll, Stormy Daniels, and Mar-a-Lago document cases... Mark.b2 Nov 13 #3
Sorry, but I disagree that the Biden administration did everything they absolutely could. lees1975 Nov 13 #9
I hope you're right. Nt Mark.b2 Nov 13 #11
FAUX Iwasthere Nov 13 #4
"I don't think there's going to be enough there to do the trick." J_William_Ryan Nov 13 #5
Forget trying to use this stuff against Trump. Use it against the Repug worms who RockRaven Nov 13 #6
The cult is unshakable Keepthesoulalive Nov 13 #7
sure, but it doesn't mean we don't hang the allegations of pedophile rape around his neck LymphocyteLover Nov 13 #8
We will never know all the truth. Scruffy1 Nov 13 #10

Wifes husband

(667 posts)
1. I agree with you.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 12:44 AM
Nov 13

I don't believe there is anything that trump could do that would take away 30% of his support. Nothing

Mark.b2

(703 posts)
3. The E. Jean Carroll, Stormy Daniels, and Mar-a-Lago document cases...
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 12:56 AM
Nov 13

wouldnt have been necessary had there been something even remotely significant in the Epstein files. There is no way the Biden DOJ wouldnt have thrown every resource combing through every last document, video or or any other piece of evidence looking for anything to take Trump down. Yet, nothing ever came out that factored into anything.

If there was anything of significance, it would have come out long before now. So, I dont expect anything.

lees1975

(6,864 posts)
9. Sorry, but I disagree that the Biden administration did everything they absolutely could.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 01:41 PM
Nov 13

Not even close. Garland deliberately, by his own admission, slow walked the insurrection cases, sedition at best, to make sure there wouldn't be enough time and he never moved to push past the obstacles and delays Trump threw up, even though he damn well had the power to do so. I honestly don't think they looked,

J_William_Ryan

(3,187 posts)
5. "I don't think there's going to be enough there to do the trick."
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 01:11 AM
Nov 13

Correct.

There’s nothing Trump can do – no matter how criminal, corrupt, reprehensible, and wrong – that will make Trump Cult members turn on Trump, including Congressional Republicans who are very much part of the Trump Cult.

RockRaven

(18,491 posts)
6. Forget trying to use this stuff against Trump. Use it against the Repug worms who
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 01:41 AM
Nov 13

tried to keep it hidden. Call every Repug Rep and Senator "Pedo Protector" to their face until they snap, and then do it some more.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,043 posts)
7. The cult is unshakable
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 01:47 AM
Nov 13

But a lot of republicans are not in the cult. He is sinking mentally and physically also a lot of congress members and senators are worried about reelection. We must keep hammering him from all directions so that we can win the midterms. People are hurting financially, pain helps to refocus you and we are feeling it at the grocery store, housing, energy and medical insurance. Epstein is just the cherry on the pain Sundae. I want him off balance , he has always bull shitted and gaslighted his way out of everything , it won’t work this time. His demise will be by a thousand cuts.

LymphocyteLover

(9,123 posts)
8. sure, but it doesn't mean we don't hang the allegations of pedophile rape around his neck
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 08:19 AM
Nov 13

every chance we get

Scruffy1

(3,478 posts)
10. We will never know all the truth.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 02:25 PM
Nov 13

The whole affair exposes what a sham the US Justice system is. Epsteins emails do not have any legal weight without verification of details by other parties. I suspect there has evidence tampering going on for many years and anything that would happen to the rich and powerful has been well buried or destroyed The whole DOJ under Garland took the old Washington attitude of once you are gone we don't really give a shit and fucked around for years. I don't think they ever considered that the monster might return.

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