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lees1975

(7,229 posts)
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 11:50 AM Friday

The coming Democratic landslide Presidential election

Signal Press: The Coming Democratic Landslide Presidential Election

Four Democrats emerged as favorites for a 2028 run in this particular poll, including former VP Kamala Harris, California governor Gavin Newsom and Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Pete Buttigeig was also a leading candidate, but the poll didn't run a head to head between him and Vance. Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio were the Republicans matched up in the poll.

If Vance were the GOP nominee, the Democrats would all beat him by similar percentages in double digits, averaging around 11%. Rubio does better, but not by much, averaging around an 8% defeat. Even at this point, more than two years away from the election, this is good news for a couple of reasons. One, MSN has a strong GOP bias. Two, we are seeing polling numbers which suggest who the Democrats are leaning toward supporting as Presidential candidates and they are all outstanding possibilities, and the Republicans are stuck with Vance and Rubio.

The Democratic party seems to be on track to re-invent itself, based on the very strong political message being sent by the American people in opposition to Trump. Are they finally getting back to their roots among the working class? It seems like that is happening, though they are definitely listening to the American people on issues like the Iran War, now more unpopular, with less support than even the Vietnam War had toward the end, the economy and the rising cost of everyday items like groceries and gas, along with bigger rip-offs like housing costs and utilities.


The fact that someone like Trump, and the tangled confusion of MAGA ignorance and incompetence when it comes to determining what is important in American politics, is an indication that major reform must occur soon. We have lost our free press and the government now must be more than just pro-active in making sure conditions exist for getting it back. Whatever steps are necessary to break up the billionaire monopolies which control the companies that own television networks, internet communications, radio broadcasts and the online "newspaper" business must be taken. The structure is there, constitutionally and in the law. It must now be strictly enforced.


And perhaps, in the support that seems to be forming around candidates who are talking openly about what kind of reforms are necessary to prevent another political disaster from occurring, there is some genuine reform on the way. My hope is that this movement will not be corrupted by corporate dollars before it becomes possible to bring about the kind of reform that eliminates the influence of money in elections altogether.
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dlk

(13,433 posts)
1. There may be an actual landslide vote, however
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 12:09 PM
Friday

It would be extremely foolish to underestimate the ongoing widespread and pervasive Republican cheating.

lees1975

(7,229 posts)
3. I agree. And this is a concern.
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 01:37 PM
Friday

It seems a lot of Democrats are aware that this will happen, but I see almost zero effort to stop it, call it out or do anything about it.

lees1975

(7,229 posts)
4. Getting out the vote is essential.
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 01:42 PM
Friday

From the Signal Press:

An entire segment of conservative Christianity, the biggest part of Evangelicalism, has become a detractor and a negative influence due to a subversion of traditional Christian theology and doctrine by modern developments like fundamentalism, and the spiritual mysticism of Pentecostalism, a combination of doctrine arising as a result of the shortage of seminary trained, educated, even literate ministers, mostly following the nineteenth century frontier revivalism. A lot of cults and deviations from traditional, biblical Christianity originated on American soil as a result, and have led to the perpetuation of blatant white supremacy and Christian nationalism.


These people won't change their mind.

mwmisses4289

(5,094 posts)
5. November hasn't happened yet.
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 02:10 PM
Friday

This reminds me of Dems crowing before the elections about Hillary and Kamala having it in the bag, and already for a win, then in shock when it didn't happen. While I agree it looks like Dems might win control of both house ans senate, I plan to wait until November 4th or 5th before I do any crowing or celebrating.

DFW

(60,733 posts)
6. Just my hunch, but I think Republican electoral fraud will be massive this time
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 03:53 PM
Friday

They can read polls as well as we can. They know what it looks like right now, and what will happen if they let nature take its course.

I have never heard of this political analyst blog (signal?), and disagree with the result of some poll that claims that our next presidential nominee will be Newsom, Harris, AOC or Buttigieg. My opinion is that it will be none of the above, though I wish Buttigieg could bypass the primary process and go right to the nomination. Newsom doesn’t (yet) come across as really wanting to fight for it, AOC seems smart enough to know she needs a bigger national base from which to start a run. Harris, as one of the 2020 “Franken Five,” is someone I would never support in a primary fight for the nomination, though I obviously would (and did) support her if she were to become our nominee.

There are others, including the powerful NOTMY (not on the map yet). Even two friends of mine are suddenly blog darlings, though I will first get excited when Charlie Cook starts listing them as possibles. While I found some to agree with in the article, there was some to disagree with as well, and there was always the irritating use of our side’s version of the cliché adjective (”libbrul” if you are a Republican, “corporate” if you are a Democrat).

lees1975

(7,229 posts)
7. The only other Democrat frequently mentioned as a potential nominee in 2028 who wasn't on the MSN poll list
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 04:29 PM
Friday

is Mark Kelly who would be my preference.

And yeah, there was some premature crowing among Democrats, perhaps, in Hillary's or Kamala's case, though I believe the Republicans stole both of those elections through fraud.

I don't see any other Democrats who have the kind of national recognition and standing needed to get in successfully. Maybe Andy Beshear, though I think he'd be a longer shot than Buttigieg or Kelly would be.

But as the OP suggests, this is an early poll, it's being reported by a biased source not always accurate, and we're speculating for discussion's sake.

Charlie Cook, meh. He's behind the curve and always has been.

DFW

(60,733 posts)
8. Mark is indeed one of the two I mentioned, Jon Ossoff being the other.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 02:13 AM
Yesterday

Mark has made it very clear that he hears the noise, and isn’t ignoring it. However he also told me that he would not be making a decision in 2026. Granted, that was in March, but I haven’t heard a peep that he has changed mind. As for Jon, he just wants to get re-elected, and is not looking beyond that.

I don’t follow Charlie Cook closely, but what I have read of his “report” seems to be very cautious, and attempts not to get swayed by sentiment, which is not the norm of late.

lees1975

(7,229 posts)
9. The MSN poll was a preference poll.
Sat Jun 20, 2026, 12:02 PM
Yesterday

They were looking for head to head data in a random sampling, and they proposed the matchups with the GOP candidates who are getting the most mention. I don't know if someone like Ossoff would have the national name recognition that Newsom or AOC or Harris have.

There's been a shift in Democratic strategy, and a better chance for Democrats to win based on issues, rather than just on national disgust with Trump. But there's also been a very obvious shift in the mindset of voters in the electorate, who are easily duped by a press that is no longer free, and by ignorance because the education they've received no longer adequately teaches critical thinking associated with American History and Civics. Republican influence in the states has reduced social studies requirements to their lowest level in decades. The OP indicates this:

An Ideological Shift Has Occurred

The fact that someone like Trump, and the tangled confusion of MAGA ignorance and incompetence when it comes to determining what is important in American politics, is an indication that major reform must occur soon. We have lost our free press and the government now must be more than just pro-active in making sure conditions exist for getting it back. Whatever steps are necessary to break up the billionaire monopolies which control the companies that own television networks, internet communications, radio broadcasts and the online "newspaper" business must be taken. The structure is there, constitutionally and in the law. It must now be strictly enforced.

We also have a public education system that was considered essential for the support of a free, democratic society. But far too many Americans are ignorant when it comes to defining and understanding what democracy is, and how it works for all Americans, and that's because the requirements for school-aged children and youth to learn about it in school have been gutted from graduation requirements. We need to restore strong standards in social studies education that put how constitutional democracy works in front of students every year they are in school. Two years of American history and a half year of Civics, shared with a semester of economics is not enough.
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