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SunSeeker

(56,773 posts)
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 12:27 PM Thursday

79-year-old U.S. citizen files $50 million civil rights claim after Van Nuys car wash ICE raid



Rafie Ollah Shouhed, a longtime Valley Car Wash owner, said he was inside his business at 7530 Van Nuys Blvd. when masked agents stormed the premises. Surveillance video reviewed by KTLA shows a federal agent shoving Shouhed to the ground inside a hallway.

Shouhed told KTLA he stepped outside to speak with the agents, offering proof that his employees were legally authorized to work, but was instead cursed at, pushed back, and body slammed onto the pavement. According to the civil rights claim, three agents then jumped on his back, with one forcing a knee onto his neck while others restrained his arms. Shouhed claims he told agents he had recently undergone heart surgery, had three stents, and could not breathe, but that his pleas were ignored.

He was handcuffed, transported to the Metropolitan Detention Center in Los Angeles, and held nearly 12 hours without medical attention, he alleges. Despite agents later acknowledging he was a U.S. citizen, Shouhed said he was denied phone calls to his family and released without charges.

The $50 million claim alleges assault, battery, violation of the California Bane Act, deliberate indifference to a serious medical condition, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and other torts. It also claims that DHS, ICE, and CBP maintain policies that tolerate the use of excessive force. Attorney V. James DeSimone, who filed the claim on Shouhed’s behalf, said in a statement that federal agents’ actions were “outrageous and unlawful” and violated both federal and California civil rights laws. 

https://ktla.com/news/79-year-old-american-citizen-files-50-million-claim-after-car-wash-ice-raid/




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79-year-old U.S. citizen files $50 million civil rights claim after Van Nuys car wash ICE raid (Original Post) SunSeeker Thursday OP
unacceptable and despicable peacebuzzard Thursday #1
Money. cbabe Thursday #3
of course it is, geez, I had forgotten. peacebuzzard Friday #59
It comes from the top. Trump approves of the violence, just like he did on 1/6. nt SunSeeker Thursday #4
Unleashing violence at a whim is what invigorates the flaccid old man RVN VET71 Friday #55
ICE has given sadists licenses to commit assault with immunity from accountability William Seger Thursday #14
40-year plan spawned in Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society, backed by billionaires ... Hekate Thursday #24
When DHS is paying their ICEstapo agents a bounty for each capture ... aggiesal Thursday #32
This is the reason. These icestapo thugs are amuck with the leniency peacebuzzard Friday #58
damn. peacebuzzard Friday #60
See... lonely bird Friday #56
What they did was beyond horrible. What the hell 😡 TommieMommy Thursday #2
Lord have mercy. MIButterfly Thursday #5
Pack of roving chuds. These crazy violent bastards are being loosed on the public for "retribution" pure and simple. Klarkashton Thursday #6
These ICE-holes are the ones that need to be locked up. patphil Thursday #7
Only pre-requisite popsdenver Thursday #44
The ultimate Cosplay Seinan Sensei Friday #53
Yeah, like any other predator, they go after the weak and defenseless. patphil Friday #61
Unprofessional, inadequately trained law enforcement. Probably militia members and/or Jan 6ers surfered Thursday #8
Every day I am shocked anew PatSeg Thursday #9
The American People will suffer Puppyjive Thursday #10
My dad survived Auschwitz Danmel Thursday #11
They are, and it's getting worse daily. Joinfortmill Thursday #45
Expose the perps progressoid Thursday #12
We've got to rein in Dump's Gestapo. Martin68 Thursday #13
More power to him... ultralite001 Thursday #15
I was reading the comments on an article in the Guardian and people deemed the US unsafe to visit for any reason. Lonestarblue Thursday #16
And the 'official' figures will show a surge in international tourism. Doodley Thursday #30
Here's the video of The Raid: Native Thursday #17
That video shows he wasn't interfering with them, they just pushed he down in the hallway for no reason. SunSeeker Thursday #38
Good. Sue these fascists into the sand. AllyCat Thursday #18
I hope the Judge increases the penalty, sues ICE and the perpertator. Fla Dem Thursday #19
Freaking Gestapo ASSHOLES! Cha Thursday #20
Sue the snot out of them. mountain grammy Thursday #21
The SCOTUS will rule shortly maxsolomon Thursday #22
Their day is coming. They're traitors. Joinfortmill Thursday #46
Nah, it's probably not. maxsolomon Friday #62
And they wonder why . . . AverageOldGuy Thursday #23
Hardly anyone is doing that as far as I can tell Hekate Thursday #28
I hope Mr. Shouhed cleans up, AND... ShazzieB Thursday #25
No law enforcement agency should be roughing up ANYONE in this manner Hekate Thursday #27
Those thugs could have killed him. Broken bones. Caused a stroke. This behavior is unacceptable in any society... Hekate Thursday #26
What always amazes me is just how many heavily-armed men it takes to arrest one small old man Hekate Thursday #29
This is what America has become. Democratic lawmakers need to be heard before we lose everything. Doodley Thursday #31
Three agents (aka thugs) to bring down one old sick man? Ping Tung Thursday #33
Now You See The Reason MissouriDem47 Thursday #34
I want to make a correction here. They are not agents. They are Storm Troopers as in the SA types. flashman13 Thursday #35
Stop going after $7 figure settlements sabrams Thursday #36
So hope he gets the money. This ICE shit of raiding businesses needs to stop. If they have evidence that iluvtennis Thursday #37
$50 million is not enough. Mblaze Thursday #39
Sadists are usually found in prison jobs. Now Hassler Thursday #40
ICE is hiring people who hate immigrants. louis-t Thursday #41
You don't want me on the jury..... COL Mustard Thursday #42
What goddamn fascist bums. Hope he's ok & wins. Joinfortmill Thursday #43
Make the agents themself liable moonshinegnomie Thursday #47
I hope he can get some good lawyers. ICE thugs need to be stopped! IcyPeas Friday #48
The lawyer he got has done a lot of local police brutality cases. SunSeeker Friday #50
Exactly... they cant even be identified. It's all over the local news tonight. IcyPeas Friday #54
Jackbooted Brownshirts... raising2moredems Friday #49
Sue the ice goons individuslly as well as the DHS et al MrWowWow Friday #51
First they need to figure out who the masked men are. SunSeeker Friday #52
"More power to him!" RazorbackExpat Friday #57

peacebuzzard

(5,665 posts)
59. of course it is, geez, I had forgotten.
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 09:46 AM
Friday

I really had. With all this unsavory shit spewing out of the white house I have been under the blankets. I live in my little world trying to ignore most to keep my calm, keep my bp down. Try to forget, until something like this grabs my attention. I admit this has me depressed all over again...

RVN VET71

(3,037 posts)
55. Unleashing violence at a whim is what invigorates the flaccid old man
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 06:15 AM
Friday

I'm not trying to be funny here. DJT is old, very old, older than a man his age would be who took care of himself. This has obviously affected his sense of manhood. Violence is his way of compensating.

Basically, if he can't have a 13 year old to rape -- because he couldn't rape one even were she made available -- the next best thing is to screw the Country and its governing Constitution.

William Seger

(11,834 posts)
14. ICE has given sadists licenses to commit assault with immunity from accountability
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:36 PM
Thursday

... as part of Stephen Miller's "cruelty is the message" strategy, intended to satisfy Miller's own sadistic xenophobia and as intimidation to encourage "self-deportation."

Hekate

(99,588 posts)
24. 40-year plan spawned in Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society, backed by billionaires ...
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:19 PM
Thursday

…who are sure democracy has run its course and that they should be in charge. Billionaires Without Borders, actually — what’s a nation to them but a cash cow to be milked and a flock of sheep to be sheared?

While you and I were trying to earn a living and also working for the common good when we had time, they had their eyes on much greater goals — such as becoming extraordinarily rich and powerful, two achievements that proved beyond a doubt that they deserved to be.

As a side gig, and just for giggles and shits as a friend of mine puts it, they also supported a burgeoning religious movement that promised its adherents that if God loved them they too would become rich. And if instead they remained poor, unhealthy, and up to their ears in debt, that meant God did not love them because they were doing something wrong.

See what a lovely circle of justification that makes?

aggiesal

(10,338 posts)
32. When DHS is paying their ICEstapo agents a bounty for each capture ...
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:44 PM
Thursday

we're in the way of the ICEstapo agents from getting the bounty $$$'s.

That's how this devolved so extensively.

peacebuzzard

(5,665 posts)
58. This is the reason. These icestapo thugs are amuck with the leniency
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 09:41 AM
Friday

and power given to them with no boundaries; anything goes and nothing is out of bounds.
beat them; bound them; drag them and no consequences. It is an adrenaline rush with prize money at the end.
Good Lord there is no recourse to this.

peacebuzzard

(5,665 posts)
60. damn.
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 09:49 AM
Friday

In a case like this; do they get compensated for an error? Or is adrenaline rush sufficient? There were probably some employees there that fit the bill?

MIButterfly

(1,359 posts)
5. Lord have mercy.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 01:43 PM
Thursday

This is absolutely despicable. Those goons throwing an old man to the ground. I just want to cry for him and everyone else who has to face this inhumane treatment. Goddamn those bastards all the way to hell and they can take their dear leader with them, as well as all the people who are okay with it.

Please, please, please, can anyone stop them? This is too much. They are going too far. None of us are safe. History had shown us that they start off with one group, which leads to another and another and if mistakes are made, oh well.

I am scared to death. This is not the America I grew up in and I'm afraid it never will be again.

Klarkashton

(4,076 posts)
6. Pack of roving chuds. These crazy violent bastards are being loosed on the public for "retribution" pure and simple.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 01:57 PM
Thursday

popsdenver

(528 posts)
44. Only pre-requisite
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 10:24 PM
Thursday

is they lean towards sadistic tendencies............If they were as brave as they act, they wouldn't be wearing face mask and have I.D. on their battle gear, along with their names.......

If Trump corruptly starts a war in Afghanistan, I think we should round up all these tough guy, wannabe soldiers and airdrop them all into a real war zone, where their enemies can and do fight back.............

Seinan Sensei

(1,150 posts)
53. The ultimate Cosplay
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 02:11 AM
Friday

All dressed up in paramilitary battle-rattle
They never go after the buff 6’4” guy

It’s an Incel’s wet-dream

surfered

(9,412 posts)
8. Unprofessional, inadequately trained law enforcement. Probably militia members and/or Jan 6ers
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:12 PM
Thursday

PatSeg

(51,017 posts)
9. Every day I am shocked anew
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:15 PM
Thursday

That was brutality beyond any reason other than to be cruel and violent.

Puppyjive

(848 posts)
10. The American People will suffer
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:18 PM
Thursday

I expect this man to win in court. The settlement will be staggering and the US taxpayer will ultimately be stuck with the bill. These ICE agents are complete morons and ignorant of basic principles of the law.

Danmel

(5,596 posts)
11. My dad survived Auschwitz
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:18 PM
Thursday

I'm grateful he is not here to see this. It triggers me, I can't imagine how he would react.
They are the gestapo.

Lonestarblue

(12,941 posts)
16. I was reading the comments on an article in the Guardian and people deemed the US unsafe to visit for any reason.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:37 PM
Thursday

We are seen by Europeans as a violent country with an out-of-control government. Some commenters also said that the US can never be trusted again even with a better administration because voters could elect another Trump or someone even worse. Better to leave the US behind and forge a new alliance.

I wonder how much tourism has declined due to Trump.

SunSeeker

(56,773 posts)
38. That video shows he wasn't interfering with them, they just pushed he down in the hallway for no reason.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 06:34 PM
Thursday

Same with when he was outside and trying to tell the two ICE Nazis that he had his employees' papers. That third ICE Nazi came running from out of the frame and tackled him to the pavement for no reason. Then the other two piled on. It's totally sick. He should be able to get punitive damages against the agents under a Bivens claim. If that's not "malice, ill will, or reckless indifference to the plaintiff's federally protected rights," I don't know what is.

Fla Dem

(27,123 posts)
19. I hope the Judge increases the penalty, sues ICE and the perpertator.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:45 PM
Thursday

Look at that man. How cowardly are they that they beat up an elderly man like that especially when he's an legal citizen.

Cha

(314,605 posts)
20. Freaking Gestapo ASSHOLES!
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 02:49 PM
Thursday

I SO HOPE Rafie Ollah Shouhed Gets Compensation and Gov Newsom gets a Load of this.

ShazzieB

(21,662 posts)
25. I hope Mr. Shouhed cleans up, AND...
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:20 PM
Thursday

I hope this is just one of many lawsuits against Schlump and his thugs for roughing up and arresting people without bothering to check whether they're U.S. citizens first.

This crap has GOT to stop.

Hekate

(99,588 posts)
27. No law enforcement agency should be roughing up ANYONE in this manner
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:26 PM
Thursday

Thuggery plain and simple

Hekate

(99,588 posts)
26. Those thugs could have killed him. Broken bones. Caused a stroke. This behavior is unacceptable in any society...
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:25 PM
Thursday

… that dares to call itself civilized.

Hekate

(99,588 posts)
29. What always amazes me is just how many heavily-armed men it takes to arrest one small old man
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:33 PM
Thursday

How they need several men to throw a smaller older person to the ground and kneel on them.

They must feel soooooo brave and manly. And patriotic.



Doodley

(11,424 posts)
31. This is what America has become. Democratic lawmakers need to be heard before we lose everything.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 03:41 PM
Thursday

Ping Tung

(3,708 posts)
33. Three agents (aka thugs) to bring down one old sick man?
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 04:27 PM
Thursday

I hope none of the heroic agents (aka thugs) weren't seriously injured in the fight he put up.

flashman13

(1,531 posts)
35. I want to make a correction here. They are not agents. They are Storm Troopers as in the SA types.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 04:49 PM
Thursday

sabrams

(24 posts)
36. Stop going after $7 figure settlements
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 05:29 PM
Thursday

People need to stop going after small money.
Minimum must be $1.5B. Is someone asks "why do you think this is worth $$$". Simply ask them how much their civil rights are worth.

iluvtennis

(21,366 posts)
37. So hope he gets the money. This ICE shit of raiding businesses needs to stop. If they have evidence that
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 06:15 PM
Thursday

someone is not authorized to work in the US, get a warrant and have the police arrest them.

The issue is that they don’t have any such evidence…all they have is the color of somebody’s skin not being white.

Mblaze

(776 posts)
39. $50 million is not enough.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 06:36 PM
Thursday

Trump sues networks in the billions for words.

Sticks and stones v Words.

louis-t

(24,473 posts)
41. ICE is hiring people who hate immigrants.
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 08:58 PM
Thursday

This is why this is happening. It's what Herr Miller wants. Sue the fuck out of him and them. This is not about deporting criminals, this is about jailing, beating, torturing and deporting immigrants.

moonshinegnomie

(3,665 posts)
47. Make the agents themself liable
Thu Sep 25, 2025, 11:57 PM
Thursday

Strip their qualified immunity since they are well aware that they arrested and held a citizen for no reason

SunSeeker

(56,773 posts)
50. The lawyer he got has done a lot of local police brutality cases.
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 12:33 AM
Friday

But going after anonymous masked federal agents is a little trickier. I wish him the best of luck. I hope he and his client not only get a lot of money, but get an injunction on this kind of brutality.

IcyPeas

(24,294 posts)
54. Exactly... they cant even be identified. It's all over the local news tonight.
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 04:11 AM
Friday

I was glad to see it being covered. The lawyer was interviewed too.... I hope he has a good team. Rafi's daughter is a paralegal, she was at the press conference.

He needs a dream team of lawyers for himself and then to sue Homan, sue Noem, sue drump.

ICE also raided a carwash on ventura blvd in studio city a couple of weeks ago.

The guys at the carwashes are doing an honest days work and these masked goons are terrorizing them and so many in this community.

I'm disheartened that this is being done and there's nothing that can stop it.



raising2moredems

(738 posts)
49. Jackbooted Brownshirts...
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 12:08 AM
Friday

Perhaps it was ICE in that smash and grab heist in San Ramon.. just saying.
Kudos for him calling out the anti-American thugs.

MrWowWow

(1,370 posts)
51. Sue the ice goons individuslly as well as the DHS et al
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 12:40 AM
Friday

Good civil rights case for a young legal eagle to take on. Nice payoff as well. A slam dunk, open and shut case for the Plantiff.

SunSeeker

(56,773 posts)
52. First they need to figure out who the masked men are.
Fri Sep 26, 2025, 12:55 AM
Friday

But that's what discovery is for. He named all the agencies. They'll have to fess up who was there.

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