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Related: About this forumSTOCK MARKET WATCH: Tuesday, 22 April 2025
STOCK MARKET WATCH: Tuesday, 22 April 2025
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SMW for 21 April 2025
AT THE CLOSING BELL ON 21 April 2025
Dow Jones 38,170.41 -971.82 (2.48%)
S&P 500 5,158.20 -124.50 (2.36%)
Nasdaq 15,870.90 -415.55 (2.55%)
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Quote for the Day:
Farmers across the United States say they could face financial ruin unless there is a huge taxpayer-funded bailout to compensate for losses generated by Donald Trumps sweeping cuts and chaotic tariffs.
The Guardian, 15 April 2025
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Lovie777
(18,107 posts)The Dow 30, 30 major companies that some layouts mean little.
Tansy_Gold
(18,156 posts)I never took statistics -- hence a BA instead of a BS in my chosen field -- but it seems the Dow's small sample size doesn't justify its position as The Measure of . . . anything. Yet it's the one most often pointed to with, "See how good (bad) the markets are doing!" It also has bigger numbers, that's supposed to be impressive, I guess.
But if you look at the 30 companies listed on the Dow, very few of them have much to do with any kind of "industrial" manufacturing, and many don't manufacture anything at all. Quite a few seem to be little more than vehicles for transferring/extracting wealth -- American Express, JP Morgan Chase, Visa, Goldman Sachs, UnitedHealth Group, etc. -- from the actual economy via financial services/manipulation.
On the other hand, what do I know? I'm just here to toss out ideas and see what happens. Usually . . . . . . . nothing.
progree
(11,836 posts)Dow, at least as far as I know. I wish there was one.
I keep track of the S&P 500 stats on a daily basis on the pinned post https://www.democraticunderground.com/111699775
which includes percentage changes from election day, from pre-inauguration day close, from the all-time-high, and year-to-date. (I also have a bottom section on the Dow to make the Dow people happy.)
A couple of stats of interest:
S&P 500 is down 16.0% from it's Feb 19 all time high
Dow is down 15.2% from it's Dec 4 all time high
Neither have reached bear market territory yet, which is 20% down. I expect they both will in days or a few weeks.
Re: another comment -- something like 55% of U.S. households own stocks or stock funds. So while it might not be "the economy", it, and bonds, are the retirement nest eggs for many Americans (along with home ownership). And the stock market is one of the Conference Board's leading economic indicators, as most recessions are preceded by sizable market downturns. When stocks are in a long dive, a lot of people and businesses cut back on their spending and that affects everyone, not just stockholders. Also insurers' assets are reduced, pushing them towards raising premiums. And pension funds are hurt.