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walkingman

(9,120 posts)
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 04:43 PM Apr 14

Since the 1970s my financial advise to friends and family was always "Don't fight the FED"

But after the last few months, I am beginning to believe another slogan should be considered...
"Don't fight the Oligarchs".
Seeing they way they have manipulated the markets by using tariffs as a tool for financial gain it is becoming more apparent every day.

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Since the 1970s my financial advise to friends and family was always "Don't fight the FED" (Original Post) walkingman Apr 14 OP
Volatility is your new friend bucolic_frolic Apr 14 #1
I'm not sure I understand? Can you give me an example...(hypothetical or real)? walkingman Apr 14 #2
It's not for the novice bucolic_frolic Apr 14 #3
There is reason, eh. twodogsbarking Apr 14 #4
My point is that it seems clear to me that Trump's economic theory of putting tariffs walkingman Apr 14 #5

bucolic_frolic

(49,946 posts)
1. Volatility is your new friend
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 04:49 PM
Apr 14

They move an increment, whatever that is for what you're watching. Then they move almost half an increment in the same direction. Next day same half move, then 50 cents over that. That's a short term extreme. Go the other way.

twodogsbarking

(13,430 posts)
4. There is reason, eh.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 06:01 PM
Apr 14

The phrase “past performance is not indicative of future results” is a mandatory disclaimer required by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). Its main goal is to protect investors from relying too heavily on historical returns presented in ads for mutual funds and other financial products

walkingman

(9,120 posts)
5. My point is that it seems clear to me that Trump's economic theory of putting tariffs
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 06:49 PM
Apr 14

on all countries with the idea of "onshoring" manufacturing and then hours later pre-market retracting said tariffs has little to do with bringing back these businesses back to the US.

In fact it actually creates great uncertainity for business (unless they have been been informed of the short-term intent). No business would commit to necessary capex multi-year spending that would be necessary to actually bring those businesses back to the US.

The obvious results of these actions would be massive inflation on products. But I am beginning to think it is simply a transactional move deliberately done to allow those with insider information to capitalize.

Since the vast majority of the market is controlled by hedge funds and institutional investors it presents a obvious risk for people like myself who depend on market stability for my retirement.

It seems obvious that this mess is concerning internationally because the normal inverse relationship between equities and bonds was just the opposite last week with both equities and bonds being sold.

I wonder if the SEC is even concerned or do they just look the other way under this administration.

Bottom line - I do not trust this administration to do anything ethically when it comes to financial transactions. Maybe my TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) has caused this paranoia.

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