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hatrack

(62,268 posts)
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 09:00 AM Jan 2025

I'm A Climate Scientist - My House In LA Burned Down - I Feel Safe Saying We Are Not Thriving On Our Changing Planet

My house in Altadena burned down in the wildfires on Wednesday. It all happened quickly. On Tuesday around 7pm, my wife and daughters went to a hotel as a precaution. I left the house with the dogs when the mandatory evacuation order came in around 3am. As best as I can put the timeline together, our home burned down around the same time that the sun came up, and I was able to drive in and see the damage around 2pm. Neighbors that went in after said it looked like a “war zone”. I have never been in a war zone thankfully, but I didn’t think so. There was nothing violent or chaotic about it. No one stopped me from driving in. There were no sirens. I stood alone – no one else around – in front of my house that was at that point just a fireplace and chimney. The house across the street was about halfway done with burning down, and the house behind ours had just started to burn.

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My house is one of many that burned down. I can see that everyone is dealing with it in very different ways and at very different paces. I don’t have a special or unique perspective to share, mostly because the experience of the past 24 hours is not unique or special. These events – often much more devastating in terms of loss of life than this one – are happening everywhere and more often with every passing year. As a climate scientist looking at these events from a distance, there can be a reaction to nod and say: “Yes, this is what we expect to unfold and what our science shows.” That’s true, of course. This event, for me, has destroyed any boundary between my work and the rest of my life, my family, my friends. It causes me to reflect on whether the words we frequently use to talk about climate change are consistent with what I’d want to hear in this moment. I haven’t really had time to sit down and pause until right now, and I just have one reflection to share.

Recently at work, I’ve been working with others to consider updates to an important guidance document for Nasa written in 2017 titled: Thriving on Our Changing Planet: A Decadal Strategy for Earth Observation from Space. It doesn’t really matter what the document is right now, but there have been discussions on how the framing should shift several years on. I feel like I am safe in saying that we are not thriving on our changing planet. And we will not thrive on our changing planet in the coming decades. But I’m not filled with despair or fatigue or ready to give up trying to help.

Even if thriving isn’t possible (which I really don’t think it is), protecting what is most important to us, supporting vulnerable communities across the globe, and ensuring a decent life for our kids can be possible and is worth working towards as best as we can. We can be both realistic and hopeful of finding a positive solution – one that doesn’t accomplish everything, maybe, but one that does enough. My kids have now had their pre-school flooded by a hurricane and their house burned down by a wildfire in elementary school (OK, maybe I’m both a bad parent and a bad climate scientist … ). Hopefully they will not be so directly impacted, but the occurrence of these events will be the reality of their generation for quite a while. But maybe when they are my age, they’ll at least see a solution has been put into place and there is greater belief that we will be able to protect what is important to us.

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jan/15/la-california-fires-climate-science

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I'm A Climate Scientist - My House In LA Burned Down - I Feel Safe Saying We Are Not Thriving On Our Changing Planet (Original Post) hatrack Jan 2025 OP
The sense of resignation mixed with a level of trust in a future... NNadir Jan 2025 #1
Really appreciate your postings. cachukis Jan 2025 #2
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled" hatrack Jan 2025 #3
Definitely a quote relevant to our times. NNadir Jan 2025 #5
If you haven't read James Gleick's biography of Feynman, it's well worth your time . . . hatrack Jan 2025 #6
I'll put on the list not really expecting to get there. I'm so far... NNadir Jan 2025 #7
You are the most rational eloquent documentor Bluethroughu Jan 2025 #4

NNadir

(35,650 posts)
1. The sense of resignation mixed with a level of trust in a future...
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 09:45 AM
Jan 2025

...generation is compelling.

I'm not sure the resources for future generations to address what's coming will be there.

I mean, here we are and we're still hearing about coal fired aircraft (via a hydrogen intermediate) as a "solution" right here at DU.

The physics and scale make hope at best a very dubious long shot.

cachukis

(3,109 posts)
2. Really appreciate your postings.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 09:54 AM
Jan 2025

What troubles me is the amount of so much info on climate change cannot compete with the oxygen sucking orange behemoth.
The fallacy of individuality over social guidance is dooming and yet we continue.
We are losing an intellectual battle to a crowd that relishes our pain at watching the destruction of habitation that we want to protect.
It is a slow drip with what was an occassional disaster to an onslaught. How can so many not see it? How can so many not care?
Ugh.

hatrack

(62,268 posts)
3. "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled"
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 10:18 AM
Jan 2025

Richard Feynman, in his comments regarding the Challenger explosion.

NNadir

(35,650 posts)
5. Definitely a quote relevant to our times.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 01:21 PM
Jan 2025

I wasn't familiar with it, so thanks.

The longer PR takes temporary precedence, the worse reality will be, and reality is pretty bad already.

hatrack

(62,268 posts)
6. If you haven't read James Gleick's biography of Feynman, it's well worth your time . . .
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 03:31 PM
Jan 2025

.

NNadir

(35,650 posts)
7. I'll put on the list not really expecting to get there. I'm so far...
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 04:19 PM
Jan 2025

...behind in what I want to read, that I'm entering into a realm of despair, and my time on the planet is limited. So much to know so little time.

I regret my profligate youth.

Bluethroughu

(7,191 posts)
4. You are the most rational eloquent documentor
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 11:39 AM
Jan 2025

of reality, I've ever read. You will be perfect to write what is nessecary to guide us moving forward.

I'm sorry about you and your family's loss.

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