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Related: About this forumWhat would happen if the US left NATO? - CaspianReport
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The Core Premise
For 70+ years, NATO's strength rested on one assumption: the US shows up with troops, intelligence, and nuclear deterrence. That assumption is now shakier, as Washington increasingly views Asia (and rivalry with China) as its primary strategic focus, making NATO look like an outdated commitment.
What Europe Would Lose
American withdrawal wouldn't dissolve NATO overnight, but it would gut its operational backbone:
- Logistics The US operates about 270 heavy airlift aircraft; Europe collectively has just over a dozen in the same class
- Intelligence US satellites and surveillance systems provide real-time battlefield awareness that Europe cannot yet replicate at scale
- Missile defense & long-range strike Systems like Aegis and the B-2 shape battlefields before fighting begins; Europe has no equivalent
- Command integration NATO's entire structure is built around US leadership, planning, and standardized platforms like the F-35
The Price Tag
A study by the IISS estimates Europe would need to spend roughly $1 trillion over 25 years just to replace US conventional capabilities including 400 fighter jets, 600 tanks, 20 destroyers, and 10 nuclear-powered submarines. Europe has the economic capacity, but not the time leaving it vulnerable for decades during the transition.
What America Would Lose
The US also has skin in the game:
- 40+ military bases in Europe used for operations across the Middle East, Africa, and the Arctic
- Political legitimacy NATO gives US actions an international, multilateral appearance
- A massive defense market roughly a third of US arms exports go to Europe, sustaining companies like Lockheed Martin and Raytheon
Two Possible Futures for Europe
1. Fragmentation NATO splinters into regional pacts, with Western Europe and Eastern Europe (e.g., Poland, the Baltics) diverging on priorities and timelines
2. Unification Europe overcomes divisions, rebuilds its military-industrial base, and emerges over 4050 years as an independent power center no longer beholden to Washington
Bottom Line
Leaving NATO would free up US resources and sharpen its Asia focus in the short term, but long-term it would cost America its forward bases, political cover, and biggest weapons market while potentially birthing a rival power center in Europe.
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What would happen if the US left NATO? - CaspianReport (Original Post)
TexasTowelie
20 hrs ago
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dem4decades
(14,356 posts)1. Anything Putie wants is good for Trumpie.
vapor2
(4,871 posts)2. BUT didn't Biden sign a law preventing leaving Nato?? Pretty sure he did
but MOFO is lawless
TexasTowelie
(128,150 posts)3. It would require the Senate to approve since it is a treaty;
however, could withhold funding which would have a significant impact.