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Related: About this forumICE Will Use AI to Surveil Social Media. Admins, this is not good, IMO.
Is it time to close DU to all but members? Sorry to sound paranoid.
Of course, there are archives who knows where.
Or do we just make a clause in the TOS:
"I am not a bot, nor do I share data with any corporation or government agency, under penalty of perjury (or whatever)"
And exclude Google. They are up to no damn good. I don't use Google except in dire circumstances.
https://jacobin.com/2025/10/ice-zignal-surveillance-social-media
The five-year contract with government technology middleman Carahsoft Technology, made public in September, provides Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) licenses for a product called Zignal Labs, a social media monitoring platform used by the Israeli military and the Pentagon.
An informational pamphlet marked confidential but publicly available online advertises that Zignal Labs leverages artificial intelligence and machine learning to analyze over eight billion social media posts per day, providing curated detection feeds for its clients. The information, the company says, allows law enforcement to detect and respond to threats with greater clarity and speed.
The Department of Homeland Security, ICEs parent agency, has in the past procured Zignal licenses for the US Secret Service, signing its first contract for the software in 2019. The company also has contracts with the Department of Defense and the Department of Transportation. But the September notice appears to be the first indication that ICE has access to the platform. The licenses will be provided to Homeland Security Investigations, ICEs intelligence unit, to provide real-time data analysis for criminal investigations, per the disclosure.
Repeat, capabilities page:
https://www.carahsoft.com/news/zignal-labs-and-carahsoft-partner-to-deliver-next-generation-osint-platform-to-government-and-defense-agencies-2025
This article was first published by the Lever, an award-winning independent investigative newsroom.
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(7,913 posts)Alice Kramden
(2,819 posts)highplainsdem
(58,768 posts)as well as dKos archived. But so what?
Closing DU to all but members won't keep out spies who already are registered or will register.
But closing DU will cut off most ad revenue, make discussions here less effective because of very limited reach, and make gaining new members who are on our side less likely.
Look, there are millions of Democrats online who are posting at least occasional messages about Trump and ICE.
ICE can't arrest them all.
But they'd !ove it if those Democrats would confine their statements to private forums, or stop posting.
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(21,140 posts)usonian
(21,903 posts)I know that DU ranks high on search (DuckDuckGo, anyway. I imagine that Google is ridden with SEO garbage and AI garbage) but how far do things actually go (other than spy agencies?)
I posted an image that should have found its way "everywhere" Namely this one. (or two)


Went nowhere.
In my extremely not so humble opinion, worthy of magazine covers!!!!
(even if I lifted them off the internet and modified them up)
Well, I don't see the "reach", only preaching to the choir here, and that's also a big positive. Where else can you help motivate people so effectively (that live here).