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Rhiannon12866

(232,915 posts)
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 06:39 AM Monday

Trump is So Dangerous Lifelong Conservatives are Calling for Revolution?!? - Thom Hartmann



Donald Trump is destroying America. Even conservatives are not happy. Some are evening saying a 'Marxist' revolution would be preferable to Trump! Thom Hartmann explains. - Aired on 04/18/2025.
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Trump is So Dangerous Lifelong Conservatives are Calling for Revolution?!? - Thom Hartmann (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Monday OP
David Brooks didn't just decide to publish this on a whim bucolic_frolic Monday #1
Thanks for the additional information! Rhiannon12866 Monday #2
There were potato famines in Ireland bucolic_frolic Monday #3
I've been to Ireland twice and I stood on the docks from where the ships left at that time Rhiannon12866 Monday #4
And that's the American story for most immigrants. bucolic_frolic Monday #5
Oh, I am so sorry! Rhiannon12866 Monday #6
"Comprehensive national civic uprising"? Does David Brooks not know what is going on across the country? yellow dahlia Tuesday #7

bucolic_frolic

(49,994 posts)
1. David Brooks didn't just decide to publish this on a whim
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 07:13 AM
Monday

There's an army of intelligentsia behind him. This should give us hope.

And Thom, the Communist Manifesto was published way way before 1926, in 1848 at the peak of the Revolutions of 1848, which were kind of an echo of the French Revolution, that swept across Europe in the spring of that year. Workers, students were faring poorly, the Irish emigration was already underway, waves of Germans emigrated to America as well, despots controlled many countries, the Bourbons were in full regale, the great Russian writers were exploring moral and economic conditions under Czarist rule.

Rhiannon12866

(232,915 posts)
2. Thanks for the additional information!
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 07:24 AM
Monday

And I was particularly interested in the Irish emigration since I believe my great grandmother's family arrived here at around that time, I'll have to double check.

bucolic_frolic

(49,994 posts)
3. There were potato famines in Ireland
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 07:32 AM
Monday

AI tells us: The Irish Potato Famine (1845-1852) and subsequent Irish emigration were significantly influenced by the land tenure system in Ireland, where most Irish tenant farmers had limited rights and were often exploited by British landlords. The potato blight, a major cause of the famine, was a devastating event that led to widespread starvation and mass emigration.

My Irish ancestors were in NYC by 1850, but have not successfully traced their parents because they had very common names.

Rhiannon12866

(232,915 posts)
4. I've been to Ireland twice and I stood on the docks from where the ships left at that time
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 07:44 AM
Monday

It was quite an emotional experience. My great grandmother came as a young girl with her family and my great grandfather came later as a young man. They met and married here and ran a farm with their 11 children. My grandfather was the eldest son and he and his closest brother signed up together to fight in WWI. My grandfather delivered ammunition to the front on horseback and his brother fought at the front - and was awarded the Silver Star.

bucolic_frolic

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5. And that's the American story for most immigrants.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 08:00 AM
Monday

Life free enough they fought to defend it. Same in my family. A great uncle gassed post-armistice, 1918. Shortened his life, often in and out of veterans homes. My uncle, permanent PTSD, undiagnosed in the day. Heroism, tragedy, but always the fight to improve things. Until Krasnov.

Salute!

Rhiannon12866

(232,915 posts)
6. Oh, I am so sorry!
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 08:37 AM
Monday

My great-'uncle was very lucky, I went to the presentation of his Silver Star, just before Covid took off, and 4 of his 5 children were there. His eldest daughter read a letter that he'd written to his closest sister telling her about the battle where there were a lot of casualties, but he said that his helmet was only knocked off.

Two congressional delegations were represented, they were excited because they'd never honored a WWI vet before. They both brought flags that had flown over the Capitol and I whispered to his youngest daughter that I wondered if they knew we were Democrats. All of my Irish relatives are lifelong Democrats.

yellow dahlia

(2,288 posts)
7. "Comprehensive national civic uprising"? Does David Brooks not know what is going on across the country?
Tue Apr 22, 2025, 12:24 AM
Tuesday

Republicans and conservatives can join in saving this Democracy at any time, in my opinion.

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