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Hieronymus Phact

(716 posts)
37. get real
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 10:07 AM
Apr 2025

Money talks. Leadership positions usually go to the biggest fundraisers, who then share the wealth, and generate loyal networks of recipients. That's how they get the votes. Schumer, McConnell, Pelosi, Gephardt, O'neill, all prodigious fundraisers. If AOC raised and distributed the type of money they did, then she can command more votes for her leadership bid. It's that simple.

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Today's Dems are, with few exceptions, a long way from FDR NewHendoLib Apr 2025 #1
FDR supported segregation SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #14
Those were different times. FDR had the spine to face down Wall Street and the wealthy to create the PatrickforB Apr 2025 #21
Yes they were very different times SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #24
See my post below. We are all groaning under the weight of the raw greed and lust for temporal power on the part PatrickforB Apr 2025 #34
Yes I saw it SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #41
One of the people who pushed FDR for internment was the governor of California dflprincess Apr 2025 #27
He was also head of the Warren commission SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #31
Reagan democrats Blue Full Moon Apr 2025 #29
Yet some insist they keeping moving to the right AStern Apr 2025 #48
move on, please AltairIV Apr 2025 #2
I'll go with that. The institutionalists are allowing billionaires courtesy of the 2025 plan, drafted at the behest of PatrickforB Apr 2025 #33
I agree with this. We need fighters in leadership now. yardwork Apr 2025 #39
Chuck Schumer especially and Jefferies for the shear fact that he allowed Pelosi to undermine him with Connolly Galraedia Apr 2025 #80
this did my (and so many other Democrats I know in real life) head in at multiple levels: Celerity Apr 2025 #87
He's still working under the old rules. Buns_of_Fire Apr 2025 #3
Bingo. yardwork Apr 2025 #40
He seems to be a good congressman Bettie Apr 2025 #4
This war has to be fought on social media. yardwork Apr 2025 #42
This exactly! Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #53
Ooooh! MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2025 #59
There was a time SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #46
He's busy kicking back and relaxing in his new position he never should have been given. Autumn Apr 2025 #5
Nancy Pelosi backed Connolly. gab13by13 Apr 2025 #6
Yes. She did. EOM Autumn Apr 2025 #8
He wasn't "given" anything. He was elected by his Democratic colleagues. tritsofme Apr 2025 #7
Yeah, we know how the system works. eom Autumn Apr 2025 #9
You convince your colleagues you are the best person for the job. That's how the process works. AOC didn't do that. tritsofme Apr 2025 #10
That's not how it works SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #16
That is exactly how it works. If you are unable to win the support of your Democratic colleagues tritsofme Apr 2025 #18
That's very naive SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #20
It was a secret ballot vote, she lost 131 to 84. tritsofme Apr 2025 #22
Again that's not how these things work SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #26
You are incorrect, it was not an appointment. There was a secret ballot vote, and she lost. tritsofme Apr 2025 #30
Once again not how these things work. SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #32
Oh my goodness what a scandal! Nancy Pelosi, who has joined the backbenches, had the audacity to have an opinion tritsofme Apr 2025 #44
Not a need for excuses SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #47
Right...by convincing your colleagues you are the best person for the job. tritsofme Apr 2025 #50
Not what happened SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #52
Pelosi is allowed to have an opinion and be an advocate. tritsofme Apr 2025 #55
Pelosi is most influential member of the caucus SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #57
Again, she is entitled to have an opinion and be an advocate for that opinion. tritsofme Apr 2025 #58
Exactly it's politics: using leverage to influence votes SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #60
So Pelosi should be silenced because people respect her opinion too much? tritsofme Apr 2025 #62
No but it's not some free vote either SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #64
It is essentially a free vote, that's a big reason it is done by secret ballot. tritsofme Apr 2025 #68
If really think it's a free vote SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #70
If you really think leadership has so much power in this day and age, I would make a similar offer. tritsofme Apr 2025 #72
They do SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #73
Speaking of reality and how things work.... Nixie Apr 2025 #131
Never said either is evil SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #133
It's obvious what happened by the vote. You can't ascribe Nixie Apr 2025 #134
Never ascribed shadiness either SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #135
Your link is to a story in the right-wing New York Post lapucelle Apr 2025 #77
I just saw AOL SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #81
It's so weird that the Daily Beast writer uses words like "schemed" and "plotted" regarding Nancy Pelosi. lapucelle Apr 2025 #94
Only if you ignore what happened SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #96
Nancy Pelosi was not working to "undermine" anyone. lapucelle Apr 2025 #97
Question SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #98
If she were the Democratic candidate, of course. N/T lapucelle Apr 2025 #99
Great SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #100
get real Hieronymus Phact Apr 2025 #37
Good point SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #45
Pretty funny Cirsium Apr 2025 #23
It was a secret ballot vote that AOC lost by a wide margin. tritsofme Apr 2025 #25
That doesn't matter Cirsium Apr 2025 #51
Unfortunately SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #54
Leadership makes recommendations through the steering committee tritsofme Apr 2025 #56
"Recommendations" Cirsium Apr 2025 #65
Nowhere have I hidden that I didn't support her for that position. tritsofme Apr 2025 #67
This indicates a more systemic issue in the party HereForTheParty Apr 2025 #75
whatever Cirsium Apr 2025 #83
With a little help. Or a lot. nt Autumn Apr 2025 #61
Correct, she lost the vote 131-84, she failed to convince enough of her colleagues to support her. tritsofme Apr 2025 #63
Yeah we know how it went. Autumn Apr 2025 #66
What is your point? Cirsium Apr 2025 #69
They obviously have a problem with AOC SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #71
I am just making sure to reject the false narrative that there was something illegitimate or untoward about her loss. tritsofme Apr 2025 #74
it is not easy to combat this shit stillcool Apr 2025 #78
Good grief Cirsium Apr 2025 #82
It should be noted that SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #95
Imagine posting a video of some Youtube rando calling Nancy Pelosi a "garbage person" lapucelle Apr 2025 #121
No kidding, these attacks on Pelosi are disgusting. Time is valuable, no point in wasting it on that buffoonery. tritsofme Apr 2025 #122
Yes, they prefer the war on Democrats to be one-sided. Nixie Apr 2025 #132
He said as the reason why he was entitled to be the ranking member of the Oversight Committee was that he had Celerity Apr 2025 #86
Seriously, MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2025 #89
disagree nt Celerity Apr 2025 #91
Disagree with reality and truth. MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2025 #93
he's actually fighting cancer... this negativity about Dems is not helpful LymphocyteLover Apr 2025 #106
A 74 year old man fighting cancer doesn't need to be in leadership, he shpuld be fighting that fight. Autumn Apr 2025 #107
Dems have the driest powder on the ship. LuvLoogie Apr 2025 #11
Careful, or you'll be scolded for demanding better from our elected Democrats Orrex Apr 2025 #12
He'll announce the formation of a subcommittee that will report back to him in six months. jalan48 Apr 2025 #13
See... mac56 Apr 2025 #15
Last term AOC was the Vice ranking member of that committee SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #17
Your assertions are not accurate. lapucelle Apr 2025 #101
It's not misinformation SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #102
What are you even talking about at this point? lapucelle Apr 2025 #103
No SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #104
Every one of your links confirms that Connolly overwhelmingly won the the secret ballot vote lapucelle Apr 2025 #105
Why did you refer to AOC as loser? SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #108
Some asshole on Youtube referring to Nancy Pelosi as a "garbage person" lapucelle Apr 2025 #109
So support for AOC is anti-democratic party? SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #110
A Youtube video made by an asshole calling Nancy Pelosi a "garbage person" lapucelle Apr 2025 #112
So every news organization is in on conspiracy? SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #113
What are you talking about? An asshole on Youtube calling Nancy Pelosi a "garbage person" lapucelle Apr 2025 #114
Why do you call AOC and Sen. Sanders' rallies a publicity tour? SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #115
I'm surprised that anyone in this day and age doesn't know what a publicity tour is. lapucelle Apr 2025 #116
Do you think of AOC as a loser? SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #117
Sorry, but stalling tactics are not going to work. Class has been dismissed for the day. lapucelle Apr 2025 #118
Yes or no. Do you think of AOC as a loser? SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #119
Have you submitted your answers yet? lapucelle Apr 2025 #120
Do you think AOC is a loser? SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #123
Your list keeps getting longer: Incessantly referring to a Democratic congresswoman as a "loser" (check). lapucelle Apr 2025 #124
Do you think AOC is a loser? SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #137
Have you tried pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del? lapucelle Apr 2025 #138
Do you think AOC is a loser? SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #139
Our daily dose of Democratic leadership's impotence and ineptitude. Paladin Apr 2025 #19
AOC is doing far more for the country on the Fighting Oligarchy tour with Bernie Gaugamela Apr 2025 #28
The answer to your question is: James48 Apr 2025 #35
They need to have a shadow government kansasobama Apr 2025 #38
That is so ugly. MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2025 #85
No recs except mine MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2025 #92
Not what I posted in my thread. gab13by13 Apr 2025 #128
These Dems have zero energy kansasobama Apr 2025 #36
Rachel Maddow's coverage of this has been haunting me since last night. Musk's theft of data makes Rump's squirreling LaMouffette Apr 2025 #43
Their response to the plundering of the SSA is also pathetic New Breed Leader Apr 2025 #49
Judges? Plundering? stillcool Apr 2025 #84
Give me 200 AOC's in the House gab13by13 Apr 2025 #76
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Leads Chuck Schumer in Hypothetical 2028 Matchup by 19 Points Celerity Apr 2025 #90
Chuck Schumer voted AGAINST the Republican spending bill. lapucelle Apr 2025 #125
It's doubtful that Chuck Schumer will run for another term. My money is on Dan Goldman lapucelle Apr 2025 #126
And here I thought dinosaurs were extinct. (n/t) DJ Synikus Makisimus Apr 2025 #79
What's wrong with a with a formal letter calling for the IG to report to Congress lapucelle Apr 2025 #88
There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking the IG's to investigate gab13by13 Apr 2025 #127
It would have been out of the news cycle by now lapucelle Apr 2025 #130
Connolly is not "chair" of the Oversight Committee. onenote Apr 2025 #111
I assumed (wrongly) gab13by13 Apr 2025 #129
This is why D. Hogg is doing what he is doing CousinIT Apr 2025 #136
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