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tornado34jh

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9. It might not look good for the judge, but something doesn't make sense to me.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 01:49 PM
Apr 2025

Let me clear, I am very suspicious of the FBI/ICE under this administration, but there are questions that still don't make sense. First, if Eduardo Flores-Ruiz was still due for a pending pretrial healing, why do it now? Did they not know he had a pretrial hearing? The victims were in court, so why would FBI/ICE do it while he was still pending a hearing? I mean, they should have told the chief judge or whoever that there was a warrant for his arrest in advance. I can see why she would be upset because this wasn't told to them before the courtroom opened, and the judge had him on the docket.

Second, was he arrested prior to this hearing (i.e. before the ICE/FBI arrived)? It sounds like he was facing serious allegations of battery, domestic abuse, etc. Unless he wasn't arrested prior, that seems odd that he wasn't in jail. If that is the case, that sounds like there were errors on the part of the local police.

I'm not a lawyer, but it's my understanding that an administrative warrant does not mean you can enter a place where you expect privacy, such as a courtroom, without consent. In other words, even if ICE were to have a warrant for his arrest, you can't enter the place without the consent. If it was a judicial warrant, then that would be different. So ICE still is in the wrong here, they didn't have a judicial warrant, which is very different.

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The FBI arresting Judges is crossing a huge line Quiet Em Apr 2025 #1
Good way to tick off all judges everywhere. Suspect this will be dismissed as hard to prove intent vs. dutch777 Apr 2025 #5
Interestingly, I'd forgotten they did this the last time around with a judge in Massachusetts. Disgusting. LauraInLA Apr 2025 #8
Let's hope this is thrown out in a nanosecond. Vinca Apr 2025 #2
Here's the affidavit. IF true, it's not good for the judge. Big IF though with these fascists Nevilledog Apr 2025 #3
That report is BS Cirsium Apr 2025 #7
It might not look good for the judge, but something doesn't make sense to me. tornado34jh Apr 2025 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Falcon101 Apr 2025 #12
Did he have his hearing? The affidavit isn't clear if he did. tornado34jh Apr 2025 #13
I will wait for the trial. I don't trust Pam Bondi bronxiteforever Apr 2025 #14
The judge is not required to assist in the enforcement of an administrative warrant. SunSeeker Apr 2025 #17
Wait, what? GusBob Apr 2025 #20
I don't know, but this whole thing is very fishy. tornado34jh Apr 2025 #22
Yes I read the affidavit GusBob Apr 2025 #23
The DEA, I don't know tornado34jh Apr 2025 #31
Per NBC, all 3 charges against him were misdemeanors. SunSeeker Apr 2025 #25
I read the affidavit. I agree, it looks like the judge is in trouble. sop Apr 2025 #10
It was an administrative warrant, nor a judicial warrant. nt SunSeeker Apr 2025 #15
The affidavit: sop Apr 2025 #21
A judicial warrant is required to enter and arrest someone in a private space, like a home or a closed court hearing. SunSeeker Apr 2025 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author sop Apr 2025 #29
That's probably why they were waiting outside madville Apr 2025 #36
Factz schmakz -- my ignorance is just as important as your knowledge Ponietz Apr 2025 #16
It appears the defendant's attorney asked to leave out of a side door with the defendant and Judge Dugan let them. SunSeeker Apr 2025 #18
I think they are trying to go way beyond here because moniss Apr 2025 #26
She isn't as superficially pretty as Kristi Noem. Frasier Balzov Apr 2025 #4
Tin foil hat time Scalded Nun Apr 2025 #6
Administrative warrant is not the same as a judicial warrant tornado34jh Apr 2025 #11
The agents were in the public area madville Apr 2025 #37
Catholic Charities orangecrush Apr 2025 #19
I'd rather be with her than stand with the likes of Ka$h Patel. Kid Berwyn Apr 2025 #27
The FBI director announced it (then deleted) on Twitter. Yes Twitter. That is how FBI announced this. Doodley Apr 2025 #28
Bradley P. Moss: So to sum up the Wisconsin arrest issue: Dennis Donovan Apr 2025 #30
Flaws pointed out by Ann Jacobs Lokee11 Apr 2025 #32
Other thread with info from Ann Jacobs Lokee11 Apr 2025 #33
Maddow Blog-As FBI arrests judge in Wisconsin, AG Pam Bondi directs new threats at the judiciary LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #34
Judge Dugan was arrested without presenting case to grand jury-this was a stunt to whip MAGA faithful into a frenzy LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #35
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