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35. Judge Dugan was arrested without presenting case to grand jury-this was a stunt to whip MAGA faithful into a frenzy
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 05:36 PM
Apr 2025

I am a corporate lawyer but I do know basic federal criminal procedure. Judge Dugan was arrested on a magistrate warrant and the case had NOT been presented to a grand jury. Before this case can go to trial, this case has to be presented to and voted on by a grand jury. The arrest on Friday was a stunt to "whip the MAGA faithful into a frenzy." One can arrest a suspect without a grand jury indictment but normally there has to be good reason for such arrest

New in PN: Arresting judges is a 5-alarm escalation

"It’s not just that Dugan was arrested, but how she was arrested. The whole point was to cause a scene. There’s no allegation she was attempting to evade arrest, but the FBI still forced a sitting judge to do a perp walk at her place of work."

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-04-28T13:24:43.255Z

New in PN: Arresting judges is a 5-alarm escalation

"It’s not just that Dugan was arrested, but how she was arrested. The whole point was to cause a scene. There’s no allegation she was attempting to evade arrest, but the FBI still forced a sitting judge to do a perp walk at her place of work."



https://www.publicnotice.co/p/trump-bondi-arresting-judges-hannah-dugan

It’s not just that Dugan was arrested, but also how she was arrested. The whole point was to cause a scene. She was arrested Friday morning in the parking lot of the Milwaukee County Courthouse, complete with handcuffs. There’s no allegation she was a flight risk or was attempting to evade arrest, but the FBI still forced a sitting judge to do a perp walk at her place of work.

Additionally, Dugan was arrested pursuant to a criminal complaint signed by a federal magistrate judge. There’s nothing improper about that as such, but for felonies in federal court, prosecutors must convene a grand jury and present evidence. Only if the grand jury returns an indictment can someone be prosecuted.

Going before a grand jury isn’t a nicety or a minor procedural step. The Fifth Amendment requires it. Arresting Dugan before convening a grand jury was intended to get flashy headlines and whip the MAGA faithful into a frenzy. Even if a grand jury declines to indict Dugan, the administration has succeeded in creating a climate of fear and suspicion.

Recall that although Trump faced 88 charges in four criminal cases for much worse things than what Dugan is accused of, he was always charged by indictment after presentation to a grand jury and allowed to turn himself in. Here he is in Georgia, where he faced 13 felony counts for trying to overturn the 202 election. Here he is in New York, where he faced — and was convicted of — 34 felonies related to falsifying business records to hide his hush payments to Stormy Daniels. New York state was so solicitous of Trump that he didn’t even have to have his mug shot taken. When he voluntarily surrendered in Miami for the classified documents case, he wasn’t handcuffed.,,,,,

It will be interesting to see a grand jury would indict this judge on the actual facts

One hurdle prosecutors might have in securing an indictment against Dugan was that ICE had an administrative warrant, not a judicial warrant, for Flores-Ruiz. The criminal complaint obscures this, referring only to a “warrant” or an “arrest warrant” in most places. The only time an administrative warrant is mentioned is when the complaint quotes Dugan saying it.

As much as the administration would like it to be otherwise, those administrative warrants aren’t the same as judicial warrants. Judicial warrants are signed by a federal or state judge or magistrate and must be complied with as long as they are valid. Administrative warrants — also known as immigration warrants — are issued by administrative agencies such as ICE and signed by an immigration judge. Despite also being called judges, immigration judges are not part of the judicial branch. They are appointed by the attorney general and are part of the executive branch.

I wonder if this case will ever be presented to a grand jury,

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The FBI arresting Judges is crossing a huge line Quiet Em Apr 2025 #1
Good way to tick off all judges everywhere. Suspect this will be dismissed as hard to prove intent vs. dutch777 Apr 2025 #5
Interestingly, I'd forgotten they did this the last time around with a judge in Massachusetts. Disgusting. LauraInLA Apr 2025 #8
Let's hope this is thrown out in a nanosecond. Vinca Apr 2025 #2
Here's the affidavit. IF true, it's not good for the judge. Big IF though with these fascists Nevilledog Apr 2025 #3
That report is BS Cirsium Apr 2025 #7
It might not look good for the judge, but something doesn't make sense to me. tornado34jh Apr 2025 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Falcon101 Apr 2025 #12
Did he have his hearing? The affidavit isn't clear if he did. tornado34jh Apr 2025 #13
I will wait for the trial. I don't trust Pam Bondi bronxiteforever Apr 2025 #14
The judge is not required to assist in the enforcement of an administrative warrant. SunSeeker Apr 2025 #17
Wait, what? GusBob Apr 2025 #20
I don't know, but this whole thing is very fishy. tornado34jh Apr 2025 #22
Yes I read the affidavit GusBob Apr 2025 #23
The DEA, I don't know tornado34jh Apr 2025 #31
Per NBC, all 3 charges against him were misdemeanors. SunSeeker Apr 2025 #25
I read the affidavit. I agree, it looks like the judge is in trouble. sop Apr 2025 #10
It was an administrative warrant, nor a judicial warrant. nt SunSeeker Apr 2025 #15
The affidavit: sop Apr 2025 #21
A judicial warrant is required to enter and arrest someone in a private space, like a home or a closed court hearing. SunSeeker Apr 2025 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author sop Apr 2025 #29
That's probably why they were waiting outside madville Apr 2025 #36
Factz schmakz -- my ignorance is just as important as your knowledge Ponietz Apr 2025 #16
It appears the defendant's attorney asked to leave out of a side door with the defendant and Judge Dugan let them. SunSeeker Apr 2025 #18
I think they are trying to go way beyond here because moniss Apr 2025 #26
She isn't as superficially pretty as Kristi Noem. Frasier Balzov Apr 2025 #4
Tin foil hat time Scalded Nun Apr 2025 #6
Administrative warrant is not the same as a judicial warrant tornado34jh Apr 2025 #11
The agents were in the public area madville Apr 2025 #37
Catholic Charities orangecrush Apr 2025 #19
I'd rather be with her than stand with the likes of Ka$h Patel. Kid Berwyn Apr 2025 #27
The FBI director announced it (then deleted) on Twitter. Yes Twitter. That is how FBI announced this. Doodley Apr 2025 #28
Bradley P. Moss: So to sum up the Wisconsin arrest issue: Dennis Donovan Apr 2025 #30
Flaws pointed out by Ann Jacobs Lokee11 Apr 2025 #32
Other thread with info from Ann Jacobs Lokee11 Apr 2025 #33
Maddow Blog-As FBI arrests judge in Wisconsin, AG Pam Bondi directs new threats at the judiciary LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #34
Judge Dugan was arrested without presenting case to grand jury-this was a stunt to whip MAGA faithful into a frenzy LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #35
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