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67. Has nothing to do with capable

Sun Jun 8, 2025, 05:36 PM

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The country already had the opportunity to weigh in on Harris-Walz.

They said no.

We can get angry and upset and say how it's because of racism, sexism, because Harris has never had a strong following of her own (she never placed well in the 2020 primary), or because Biden made a huge mistake refusing to acknowledge he needed to drop out of the race and waiting until the last second to do so. All of these things are true. In the end, none of them matter.

The country had a chance to vote for this ticket. They said they didn't want that ticket in the white house.

We would be very foolish to try to jam that ticket down their throats again. If we're going to do that, why not just run Hillary again? Why not run Al Gore?

We need to move on to new candidates, preferably candidates that the democratic party has a chance to weigh in on during the primary process. That will generate more voters on our end, which was a problem in 2024, but also new candidates that don't make the country feel like they don't really like either option and are forced to choose (which I think was how many felt with Biden/Trump for sure, and some also felt with Harris/Trump.)

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Harris-Walz was a great ticket and could be again. [View all] milestogo Sunday OP

"Capable" doesnt mean "electable". I'm capable. Not electable. Callie1979 Sunday #1

+100,000,000 elocs Sunday #20

I don't think time was the issue Shrek Monday #104

This. obnoxiousdrunk Monday #108

Agreed. dchill Sunday #2

I think Kamala is done with national politics calguy Sunday #3

I totally agree bif Sunday #5

a woman won the popular vote in 2016 cadoman Monday #86

The reactionary hatred of that "uppity black man and likely Muslim" is what led us to where we are JT45242 Monday #103

I would absolutely support them again. Quiet Em Sunday #4

An exceptional LOSING ticket. Reality sucks, but it is what it is. n/t elocs Sunday #21

Curious. Who is on the ticket you are looking for? Quiet Em Sunday #31

She was one of the first out in 2020... Melon Monday #79

That's not quite accurate Quiet Em Monday #85

She sealed her fate in the primary madville Monday #91

Joe Biden said selecting Kamala Harris as his VP was the best decision he's made in his entire career Quiet Em Monday #93

I agree if they want it. She also might be a great AG. yorkster Sunday #6

What role do candidates have in the so called "dumbed down" electorate? Renew Deal Sunday #7

At some point, the Dems need to appeal to the Dr. T Sunday #42

Dumb voters put a sociopathic narcissistic con man into office. maxsolomon Monday #110

No way. ForgedCrank Sunday #8

I worked with a young man who really wanted Mark Zuckerberg to be president. milestogo Sunday #13

Thats why I think the "MAGA" cult shrinks with Trump's death Callie1979 Sunday #16

Maga is a cult of personality and Trump is that personality. n/t elocs Sunday #22

Agree 1000%! ShazzieB Sunday #45

agree, the field resets when he is gone cadoman Monday #87

Zuckerberg comes across as an alien. He's relatable to nobody. Mark Cuban....... Melon Monday #81

You've hit the nail on the head. Agree on ALL points. Callie1979 Sunday #15

If you want a Repub in 2028 Bluestocking Sunday #9

Might as well run Hillary again Ponietz Sunday #10

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. n/t elocs Sunday #23

Al Gore! Ponietz Sunday #65

Nobody doubted their capability. Hell, I didn't doubt her electability. I thought for sure we would level up and elect Aristus Sunday #11

Nailed it. Enough people looked at a despicable convicted felon/fraudster/sex pest/ Ocelot II Sunday #30

I support my governor for 2028 and I realize I may be in the minority indigovalley Sunday #12

I would happily support Tim or my governor, JB Pritzker. ShazzieB Sunday #46

I like Pitzker also... indigovalley Sunday #59

It was nonstop, "She lost because of racism and sexism" here on DU for months after the election. jalan48 Sunday #14

And the ignoring of the realities of the election are STILL pushed aside. Callie1979 Sunday #18

To be honest.. ShazzieB Sunday #47

Here are the stats. Callie1979 Sunday #55

Thanks. ShazzieB Sunday #61

No thanks. BannonsLiver Sunday #17

Well, if she wins the primary Fla_Democrat Sunday #19

Post removed Post removed Sunday #27

pass nt Celerity Sunday #24

Ticket? Sorry, that show's over, pulled up the tent stakes, and left town. Probably won't be back for a decade or more 0rganism Sunday #25

I'm looking for something like Newsom/Emanuel gulliver Sunday #26

oh man, this sounds a lot like .....can't quite put my finger on it Nimble_Idea Sunday #70

Let's not put our heads in the sand when it comes to the deep vein of sexism and misogyny that runs through America dlk Sunday #28

Kamala has a Doug Emhoff problem Sewa Sunday #29

Didn't he resign after that? milestogo Sunday #44

not that i'm aware of nt orleans Monday #76

Harris will not be the nominee again Fiendish Thingy Sunday #32

Whether he cheated or won legitimately, he is in the office of the President. colorado_ufo Sunday #41

As obama said," we have to beat them so badly there is no doubt " questionseverything Sunday #64

No way Hieronymus Phact Sunday #33

Let's start with a competitive primary and go from there. NH Ethylene Sunday #34

Adlai Stevenson lost twice because America chose a "war hero" over an "egg head", so there's that. PermatexNo.2 Sunday #35

Harris did the best she could, given the circumstances. However, nominating her again would be utter insanity. tritsofme Sunday #36

To be honest, I think the situation Harris was in - the emergency replacement nominee - made her politically stronger Midwestern Democrat Monday #75

The anti trans ads were on 24/7 in NC in 2024 JanMichael Sunday #37

I suspect those anti trans ads were running in a lot of places. ShazzieB Sunday #49

They were even run here in NYC Polybius Monday #82

You're right. CONTINUOUS. And then it was never really answered for. Callie1979 Tuesday #114

We need to run someone who is like a younger version of Wesley Clark. LudwigPastorius Sunday #38

I have the same fear, about Pete. ShazzieB Sunday #52

This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Sunday #39

They would have made a great President and VP mvd Sunday #40

By 2028 Kamala could be the best candidate thought crime Sunday #43

I think you are underestimating the misogyny in the electorate. RandomNumbers Sunday #57

I'd go with "younger"; Wes Moore. Callie1979 Tuesday #115

And a lot of people think of presidential elections as a retail choice. That is... Beartracks Sunday #48

They need to understand that this is your power milestogo Sunday #50

NO SSJVegeta Sunday #51

No DenaliDemocrat Sunday #53

As much I love Kamala and Tim, I'm another no. ShazzieB Sunday #54

I was absolutely convinced they could win. Like you, I loved both of them. Now I wonder what on earth I was thinking... CTyankee Sunday #56

What's crazy is that before last July, a huge amount of DUers said that she couldn't win Polybius Monday #83

Many people had resigned themselves that Pres. Biden was likely going to lose MichMan Monday #107

Whitmer is a better option benpollard Sunday #58

yeah, my best bet too. i especially loved the covering of the face while with twump. Nimble_Idea Sunday #69

''I don't think the problem is our candidates or our party or our messaging.'' anamnua Sunday #60

Won't win. There are too many racists and sexists inside the house Scrivener7 Sunday #62

It would be nice if Democrats would stop validating Trump talking points WSHazel Sunday #63

You know what else is exhausting...being gagged on a forum when trying to discuss who the best candidate Melon Monday #99

Support whoever you want WSHazel Tuesday #111

The definition of insanity is.....well, we all know the rest of that quote. n/t Captain Stern Sunday #66

and yet Krasnov is in office, and the quote is wrong cadoman Monday #89

Has nothing to do with capable pinkstarburst Sunday #67

tesler crypto bros out here crying, but Kamala will win the primary and be the nominee Nimble_Idea Sunday #68

NO ... 👎nt Raine Sunday #71

This message was self-deleted by its author PennRalphie Sunday #72

top level metrics were good but at ground level things have been rough for a long time cadoman Monday #90

Fool me once, shame on you. William769 Sunday #73

She would have to make it through the primaries this time Polybius Sunday #74

Ok fine. What would they do differently a second time around? Justice Brandeis Monday #77

nope nope and nope nt orleans Monday #78

And if they lose to Vance/DeSantis? Polybius Monday #80

No. Thank you AnyFunctioningAdult Monday #84

What a novel idea! tavernier Monday #88

Let's see if she can win a primary madville Monday #92

No More Boomers! Nonnia Bisnez Monday #94

Sooooo you think someone who is 60 years old should not be President??? Peacetrain Monday #95

Someone who would be 60 in 2028 Nonnia Bisnez Monday #96

60 today.. 63 in 28 question is the same Peacetrain Monday #97

This message was self-deleted by its author Nonnia Bisnez Monday #98

The Baby Boom generation is 1946 to 1964.. the youngest boomers turned turned 60 last year Peacetrain Monday #100

Yea, my bad. Nonnia Bisnez Monday #102

Hey if a Gen X or a Millennial is the best candidate I will be the first in line to support them Peacetrain Monday #106

I would vote for this ticket again LetMyPeopleVote Monday #101

Charismatic, intelligent, inspiring Joyful Warrior, one of the most progressive senators -- betsuni Monday #105

Regardless, the primary will decide. Patton French Monday #109

She is welcome to throw her hat in the ring for the primaries fujiyamasan Tuesday #112

Harris-Walz is over. It's not going to happen. Autumn Tuesday #113

No, no, a million times no nt Rob H. Tuesday #116