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Vogon_Glory

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10. There's also speculation that far-ranging French and English fishermen were

Reply to RoseTrellis (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 10, 2025, 03:17 PM

Jun 10

fishing near Canada and Newfoundland off-the-books in the late 15th century. Since the English fishermen had to worry about the Hanseatic League as well as English royal officials, they didn’t go out of their way to say where their catches were actually coming from.

The point is that word about the Americas would have gotten around, even if Ferdinand and Isabella had given Columbus the bum’s rush in the early 1490’s and threatened to behead him if he was found anywhere in Iberia ever again.

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Anyone else still pissed at Christopher Columbus? [View all] milestogo Jun 10 OP

I am pissed a Columbus's navigator Fiendish Thingy Jun 10 #1

It's my understanding that PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 10 #17

But his milquetoast navigator could have told him to keep going Fiendish Thingy Jun 10 #19

WHAT milquetoast navigator?? PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 10 #23

Shhh... Fiendish Thingy Jun 10 #24

Who would have been next? RoseTrellis Jun 10 #2

Leif Erickson came to Newfoundland in the 11th century milestogo Jun 10 #4

There's also speculation that far-ranging French and English fishermen were Vogon_Glory Jun 10 #10

Well, that's really way "off-the-books" when you cross an Ocean and then pretend you didn't. milestogo Jun 10 #16

A lot of trouble for high returns Vogon_Glory Jun 10 #20

Anyone else pissed at people who are wasting pisses on long dead people? Srkdqltr Jun 10 #3

We need to learn from the past so we don't repeat it. And each new generation needs to learn from the older one. CTyankee Jun 10 #8

I blame ships. betsuni Jun 10 #5

I blame electricmonk Jun 10 #11

. MorbidButterflyTat Jun 10 #14

When I told my coworker I discovered the Beatles in 1982 Torchlight Jun 10 #6

Columbus isn't Italian and didn't land in the continental USA AStern Jun 10 #7

Say what? aurora the great Jun 10 #12

That part of Italy was part of Spain in his day. AStern Jun 10 #15

Latest reporting on his DNA results claims he was not Italian wishstar Jun 10 #22

All murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets. Voltaire Ping Tung Jun 10 #9

Yes, of course. BannonsLiver Jun 10 #13

Because without him this continent would have PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 10 #18

I agree. European contact with the Americas wasinevitable Vogon_Glory Jun 10 #21