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16. Exxon knew all about this in 1977. In something like 1850 in Germany experiments showed the CO 2 in a
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 11:39 AM
Jun 20

body of gas the more heat that body of gas will hold. That is part of the universal gas laws and
has never been disproven once. And the fossil fuel industries have spent billions in misinformation
about climate change and buying the Republican Party to deny reality.

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Scientific American.

Exxon was aware of climate change, as early as 1977, 11 years before it became a public issue, according to a recent investigation from InsideClimate News. This knowledge did not prevent the company (now ExxonMobil and the world’s largest oil and gas company) from spending decades refusing to publicly acknowledge climate change and even promoting climate misinformation—an approach many have likened to the lies spread by the tobacco industry regarding the health risks of smoking. Both industries were conscious that their products wouldn’t stay profitable once the world understood the risks, so much so that they used the same consultants to develop strategies on how to communicate with the public.

Experts, however, aren’t terribly surprised. “It’s never been remotely plausible that they did not understand the science,” says Naomi Oreskes, a history of science professor at Harvard University. But as it turns out, Exxon didn’t just understand the science, the company actively engaged with it. In the 1970s and 1980s it employed top scientists to look into the issue and launched its own ambitious research program that empirically sampled carbon dioxide and built rigorous climate models. Exxon even spent more than $1 million on a tanker project that would tackle how much CO2 is absorbed by the oceans. It was one of the biggest scientific questions of the time, meaning that Exxon was truly conducting unprecedented research.

In their eight-month-long investigation, reporters at InsideClimate News interviewed former Exxon employees, scientists and federal officials and analyzed hundreds of pages of internal documents. They found that the company’s knowledge of climate change dates back to July 1977, when its senior scientist James Black delivered a sobering message on the topic. “In the first place, there is general scientific agreement that the most likely manner in which mankind is influencing the global climate is through carbon dioxide release from the burning of fossil fuels," Black told Exxon’s management committee. A year later he warned Exxon that doubling CO2 gases in the atmosphere would increase average global temperatures by two or three degrees—a number that is consistent with the scientific consensus today. He continued to warn that “present thinking holds that man has a time window of five to 10 years before the need for hard decisions regarding changes in energy strategies might become critical." In other words, Exxon needed to act.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/



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Oh no! If only someone had tried to warn us, using the tools of science to . . . oh, wait . . . hatrack Jun 20 #1
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That is the fear, in a nutshell. Passages Jun 20 #5
I see ... littlemissmartypants Jun 20 #4
Trump won't like that. Turbineguy Jun 20 #6
This Is A Prime Example modrepub Jun 20 #7
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100%!!! Passages Jun 20 #10
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Country is already bankrupt madville Jun 20 #15
Exxon knew all about this in 1977. In something like 1850 in Germany experiments showed the CO 2 in a Botany Jun 20 #16
Knowledge of the thermodynamic properties of CO2 predates the Civil War . . . . hatrack Jun 20 #18
About 2 miles from where I am sitting right now in Columbus, Ohio is Ohio State University's Institute of Botany Jun 20 #19
Yep. Lonnie Thompson is Da Man! hatrack Jun 20 #21
On this front, Change is stiff competition with the Crime Syndicate operating out of the Oval Office msfiddlestix Jun 20 #17
It has been estimated the every dollar invested in the Weather Bureau ... dedl67 Jun 20 #20
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