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maxrandb

(16,721 posts) Wed Jul 2, 2025, 04:02 PM Jul 2

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The "press" is complicit, and so is our party's language [View all]

The Returdlicans are absolutely great at "branding".

Take the "Alligator Alcatraz" bullshit. They repeat that moniker over, and over, and over again. Everyone from the Dipshit in the White House, to the Kindergarten Returdlicans repeat it...IN LOCKSTEP.

Pretty soon, EVERY NEWS REPORT about it uses the term "Alligator Alcatraz". What's even worse is, Democratic politicians begin to use that term when discussing the "Auschwitz of Florida".

That's not "fighting for the moment"! That's talking about an unbelievably fascist turn in America on the fascists terms!

Take the "Big Beautiful Bill" for example. The Democratic Party began relabeling it eventually, but by then, the linguistic terms for branding that disastrous piece of legislation had already been set. I actually wretched everytime I heard a Dem use the term "Big Beautiful Bill". Can't blame the media for labeling, if we are doing it ourselves.

If we want to win, I would suggest we STOP LETTING THEM DEFINE THE TERMS OF DEBATE.

Some smart political "strategist" better understand that, in this Tic-Toc. X, Facebook world, if you wait ONE FUCKING SECOND to begin setting your terms, IT'S TOO LATE!

The Retrumplican Party...EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM...won't even acknowledge and use the correct name of the Democrat - IC Party. NOT FUCKING ONE OF THEM.

Are we concerned our "language" will harm "decorum"?

How about this?

Let's worry about decorum after we have stomped this MAGAt Nazi party out of existence.

It is about 60 years too fucking late to start fighting fire with fire.

This shit started when these asspickles assassinated the Kennedys and MLK...and no matter what they may say in public, they privately celebrate those assassinations.

These are the fucking monsters that have seized our country. Can we please STOP using their fucking terms of debate?

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The "press" is complicit, and so is our party's language [View all] maxrandb Jul 2 OP

The worst example (or maybe the best) is "Proabortion". Permanut Jul 2 #1

But we reinforce that Bluetus Jul 2 #11

Yeah! WTF happened to the "Choice" term! wolfie001 Jul 2 #14

oh I am definitely pro-abortion tho WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2 #22

It is counter-productive to frame the argument that way Bluetus Jul 2 #31

Abortion doesn't happen in a bedroom, so I'm not sure why you call it a bedroom issue. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2 #32

"Bedroom" is a euphemism for sexual relations Bluetus Jul 2 #35

Euphemisms have no place in politics. Abortion is not about sexual relations; it's about ending a pregnancy. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2 #36

"Euphemisms have no place in politics" Bluetus Jul 3 #40

We Go High is invalidating language AStern Jul 2 #2

Sadly, we don't live it that world anymore maxrandb Jul 2 #5

No, you are 100% correct. "We Go High" only works in a political system/culture where going high is actually valued and Karasu Jul 2 #24

They have a very well funded psyops team using cachukis Jul 2 #3

They are from the business world, which uses psyops and other advances in psychological manipulation all the time DSandra Jul 2 #34

Florida Auschwitz is the correct term and we should use it. wnylib Jul 2 #4

Don't need a mirror! niyad Jul 2 #30

You would like George Lakoff's work on framing the debate Qutzupalotl Jul 2 #6

Framelab is an EXCELLENT resource. Bluetus Jul 2 #33

I totally agree SusieCreamcheese Jul 2 #7

Abso-fucking-lutely! erronis Jul 2 #16

You nailed it malaise Jul 2 #8

While appreciate singing to choir, we need to convert the 5% or so of voters who swung to trump in Nov and Silent Type Jul 2 #9

Branding by the Bully SusieCreamcheese Jul 2 #10

It might also help if Democrats would PatSeg Jul 2 #12

It's official: Alligator Alcatraz is not a nickname. It's Florida's name for detention site. Amaryllis Jul 2 #13

Amen..."permanent tax cuts" is another....sunsetting these abortions rasing taxes?!?!? (n/t) Moostache Jul 2 #15

That would be ungenteel. Kid Berwyn Jul 2 #17

BIG BEAUTIFUL BETRAYAL bill and ALLIGATOR AUSCHWITZ or GATOR GULAG flamingdem Jul 2 #18

Every trumplican needs to be labeled a RINO idahoblue Jul 2 #19

KICK orangecrush Jul 2 #20

TELL IT! GiqueCee Jul 2 #21

I've used the term Anti-Abortion for decades JoetheShow Jul 2 #23

One example. BidenRocks Jul 2 #25

Pro Life is the worst one JI7 Jul 2 #26

Actually, they are anti-women's healthcare. mdbl Jul 2 #28

K&R mdbl Jul 2 #27

They're also great at manufacturing a faux scandal, and keeping it in the headlines. Something WE have to learn to do. TrollBuster9090 Jul 2 #29

I agree wholeheartedly. 🩵💙🩵 live love laugh Jul 2 #37

The newz is also calling it a budget bill. live love laugh Jul 2 #38

I agree. The Dems calling the Bucks for Billionaires Hassler Jul 2 #39

Trump should always be referred to as "convicted felon Donald Trump" Orrex Jul 3 #41

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