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WhiskeyGrinder

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36. Euphemisms have no place in politics. Abortion is not about sexual relations; it's about ending a pregnancy.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 07:43 PM
Jul 2
But I can assure you that Frank Luntz and the Republicans are kicking our asses every day because they are 1000x better at framing arguments than we are.
Sure, Luntz and his ilk are always going to be out there scaremongering about partial-birth abortions, teens getting 39-week abortions to fit in prom dresses and doctors drowning babies in toilets hours after birth. Tiptoeing and tee-heeing about "bedroom issues" is not the way to either meet that moment or frame an argument as to why eliminating restrictions on abortion is so vital.

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The worst example (or maybe the best) is "Proabortion". Permanut Jul 2 #1
But we reinforce that Bluetus Jul 2 #11
Yeah! WTF happened to the "Choice" term! wolfie001 Jul 2 #14
oh I am definitely pro-abortion tho WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2 #22
It is counter-productive to frame the argument that way Bluetus Jul 2 #31
Abortion doesn't happen in a bedroom, so I'm not sure why you call it a bedroom issue. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2 #32
"Bedroom" is a euphemism for sexual relations Bluetus Jul 2 #35
Euphemisms have no place in politics. Abortion is not about sexual relations; it's about ending a pregnancy. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2 #36
"Euphemisms have no place in politics" Bluetus Jul 3 #40
We Go High is invalidating language AStern Jul 2 #2
Sadly, we don't live it that world anymore maxrandb Jul 2 #5
No, you are 100% correct. "We Go High" only works in a political system/culture where going high is actually valued and Karasu Jul 2 #24
They have a very well funded psyops team using cachukis Jul 2 #3
They are from the business world, which uses psyops and other advances in psychological manipulation all the time DSandra Jul 2 #34
Florida Auschwitz is the correct term and we should use it. wnylib Jul 2 #4
Don't need a mirror! niyad Jul 2 #30
You would like George Lakoff's work on framing the debate Qutzupalotl Jul 2 #6
Framelab is an EXCELLENT resource. Bluetus Jul 2 #33
I totally agree SusieCreamcheese Jul 2 #7
Abso-fucking-lutely! erronis Jul 2 #16
You nailed it malaise Jul 2 #8
While appreciate singing to choir, we need to convert the 5% or so of voters who swung to trump in Nov and Silent Type Jul 2 #9
Branding by the Bully SusieCreamcheese Jul 2 #10
It might also help if Democrats would PatSeg Jul 2 #12
It's official: Alligator Alcatraz is not a nickname. It's Florida's name for detention site. Amaryllis Jul 2 #13
Amen..."permanent tax cuts" is another....sunsetting these abortions rasing taxes?!?!? (n/t) Moostache Jul 2 #15
That would be ungenteel. Kid Berwyn Jul 2 #17
BIG BEAUTIFUL BETRAYAL bill and ALLIGATOR AUSCHWITZ or GATOR GULAG flamingdem Jul 2 #18
Every trumplican needs to be labeled a RINO idahoblue Jul 2 #19
KICK orangecrush Jul 2 #20
TELL IT! GiqueCee Jul 2 #21
I've used the term Anti-Abortion for decades JoetheShow Jul 2 #23
One example. BidenRocks Jul 2 #25
Pro Life is the worst one JI7 Jul 2 #26
Actually, they are anti-women's healthcare. mdbl Jul 2 #28
K&R mdbl Jul 2 #27
They're also great at manufacturing a faux scandal, and keeping it in the headlines. Something WE have to learn to do. TrollBuster9090 Jul 2 #29
I agree wholeheartedly. 🩵💙🩵 live love laugh Jul 2 #37
The newz is also calling it a budget bill. live love laugh Jul 2 #38
I agree. The Dems calling the Bucks for Billionaires Hassler Jul 2 #39
Trump should always be referred to as "convicted felon Donald Trump" Orrex Jul 3 #41
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