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19. I thought this was hyperbole but it's not.
Fri Aug 15, 2025, 03:48 PM
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Early last month, the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)sponsored a panel on the family at the organization’s Socialism Conference 2025. The organization described the topic this way: “How should the left relate to the family? Socialist analysis makes clear that the nuclear family form is an inherently repressive, racist, and hetero-sexist institution that functionally reinforces and reproduces capitalism.”

The roundtable featured Olivia Katbi, the co chair of Portland DSA; Eman Abdelhadi, an assistant professor and sociologist at the University of Chicago; and Katie Gibson, a Teaching Fellow at the University of Chicago.

Key observations from the panelists included:

“When we talk about family abolition, we’re talking about the abolition of the economic unit… all of our material needs taken care of by the collective.”
“We argue for abolition of the family in general… the institution of the family acts as part of the carceral system.”


As usual, the DSA is quite authoritarian in their approach. How will this dissolution of families be achieved? At gun point?

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link? Shellback Squid Friday #1
It isn't hidden. Just google it. This isn't new. lostincalifornia Friday #2
"There are a lot of naive people in the world." soldierant Friday #39
just got here.. I agree w this...was thinking of saying something similar. You covered it. 👍 electric_blue68 Friday #66
Your excerpt is taken out of context al bupp 21 hrs ago #152
Thanks for the full statement by DSA.It makes a great difference. nt delisen 18 hrs ago #156
move on. AltairIV Friday #3
No. Cha Friday #11
Tell this to the people of New York City and Minneapolis question everything Friday #60
He can win but...... AltairIV Friday #64
Ummm... "the democrat party" ??? electric_blue68 Friday #67
There is no such thing as the "democrat party" -- Republicans made that name up. SunSeeker Saturday #122
Well, as a NYC'r...NOT an Adam's, or Cuomo fan. So Zohran, it is. and* electric_blue68 Friday #68
I think Zohran won because of his voter engagement, not just his DSA affiliation. Just my two cents! LeftInTX 16 hrs ago #163
I'm sure that helped. electric_blue68 16 hrs ago #164
They seem to be here mcar Friday #70
I agree with them n/t leftstreet Friday #4
You'd just let Russia invade and take over Ukraine? yardwork Friday #5
There are NATO troops in Ukraine? leftstreet Friday #8
I think we're talking past one another. yardwork Friday #15
I think so leftstreet Friday #29
Wow. There's so many brown people in Ukraine being oppressed by NATO. Who knew? Hekate Friday #17
There are a fair number of "brown" people being oppressed by Russia. yardwork Friday #20
Ah, you could be right electric_blue68 Friday #69
But my question was about the people NATO is accused of oppressing in Ukraine. I know about Russian conscripting from... Hekate Friday #82
I don't know of anybody NATO is oppressing. yardwork Friday #86
I think you and I are on the same page. I've been trying to tease out (so to speak) an admission... Hekate Friday #89
What? About letting Putin rape and pillage Ukraine in the name of "anti-imperialism"? Crunchy Frog Friday #36
Disband NATO and pull out of Ukraine are very bad ideas uponit7771 Saturday #129
I said nothing about Ukraine leftstreet Saturday #131
What country has NATO taken over with its "imperialism"? SunSeeker Saturday #134
They've screwed up a couple of times but I don't notice pattern of taking over people's property like a proper imperial uponit7771 Saturday #137
Hugh! H2O Man Friday #6
lol, and Robb is a dingbat Shellback Squid Friday #7
Well played! H2O Man Friday #21
SERIESLY!! Call your congresscritter RIGHT FUCKING NOW!! madinmaryland Friday #16
Where is Walt Star? H2O Man Friday #22
miss his thoughtful posts, so many early DUer's are now gone Shellback Squid Friday #35
Good question. That was an epic flame out. Skinner: "Ok". madinmaryland Friday #50
Writing under an assumed name? Hekate Friday #85
Now don't cast asparagus on our friends the socialists. yardwork Friday #18
Ha! H2O Man Friday #23
Or we're all screwn!!!! yardwork Friday #24
The sky is falling! H2O Man Friday #25
LOL! MuseRider Friday #57
I remember the DSA response to the invasion of Ukraine LetMyPeopleVote Friday #9
DSA also wants to dissolve the family Charmin One Friday #10
What family? obamanut2012 Friday #12
All familes eom Charmin One Friday #13
Aa DSA rondtable recommended it Charmin One Friday #14
I'm a prostitute? JustAnotherGen Friday #45
I like the UU's. electric_blue68 Friday #79
We believe in potluck suppers JustAnotherGen Friday #87
That's a good enough reason! electric_blue68 Friday #88
In a same sex marriage, which one is supposed to be the prostitute? Crunchy Frog Friday #94
Mind boggling JustAnotherGen Saturday #106
Ohhh, brother 🙄 electric_blue68 Friday #71
It makes me question JustAnotherGen Saturday #114
I thought this was hyperbole but it's not. yardwork Friday #19
Of course they are authoritarian. EllieBC Friday #27
These people need to step out of the academia bubble. Ace Rothstein 16 hrs ago #166
The question of the family is not new OutNow Friday #26
Good Lord. yardwork Friday #28
What irritates me about this...well, there is a lot, but the main one... Behind the Aegis Friday #31
Very good point. yardwork Friday #33
While I am being "quippy" - I remember all of this. I Do keep an eye out on extremists. electric_blue68 Friday #75
Imagine being so hateful EllieBC Friday #32
Wow, that's insane. Family units of one sort or another exist accross all primate species, Crunchy Frog Friday #41
And that is the truth Hekate Friday #91
Yeah JustAnotherGen Friday #46
Oh, "joy". 🙄 electric_blue68 Friday #74
Last week at their convention, DSA tabled a motion to censure AOC. lapucelle Friday #30
Mahalo for that on DSA "Tabling a Resolution to Cha Friday #40
AOC JustAnotherGen Friday #44
According to the DSA censure resolution, one of AOC's "sins" was endorsing Kamala Harris. lapucelle Saturday #107
Jesus Christ JustAnotherGen Saturday #109
Interesting... 80,000? Oopsie Daisy Saturday #115
WFP JustAnotherGen Saturday #118
Good gad mcar Saturday #124
Insanity! SunSeeker Saturday #133
I did not know about this. sheshe2 Friday #53
Holy shit Hekate Friday #92
Claims to counterculture notwithstanding, lapucelle Saturday #105
I'm not sure I agree with them on every point, snot Friday #34
I'm not so sure mountain grammy Friday #38
That sounds an awfully lot like endorsing the idea that some people have the right to own other people. Crunchy Frog Friday #43
Ukraine is vital interest JustAnotherGen Friday #47
Well... electric_blue68 Friday #76
It's almost as if they're kooks. BannonsLiver Friday #37
I agree LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #104
They flat out are JustAnotherGen Saturday #119
This is why I'm a Democratic Party Member JustAnotherGen Friday #42
Of course they did! Their disloyalty and treachery to our country and to our party must never be forgotten. Oopsie Daisy Friday #48
For the record mises.org is a right wing Nanjeanne Friday #49
Mine is the Dekalb GA news JustAnotherGen Friday #72
Like I said Im not debating NATO or DSA. Just pointing out that people need to consider sources and Nanjeanne Friday #93
Thank you for the response JustAnotherGen Saturday #108
Left center bias and medium credibility. Minimal loaded wording. I'll take it. Love watching Al Jazeera America. Lots Nanjeanne Saturday #110
State Owned Propaganda JustAnotherGen Saturday #111
Okey dokey. Nanjeanne Saturday #117
Thank you for this very informative post, Nanjeanne Hekate Friday #90
It looks like another attempt to prevent Mamdani from winning AZProgressive Friday #51
This OP has nothing to do with Mamdani. And if you read the OP, that was stated explicitedly lostincalifornia Friday #52
He's a Democratic Socialist running for mayor of NYC AZProgressive Friday #54
So what. trump, putin, and the DSA are all on the same page that the U.S. should get out of NATO. Mamdani is lostincalifornia Friday #55
I agree NATO is not part of his job duties AZProgressive Friday #56
Neither is Israel, but he says he will arrest Netanyahu for war crimes MichMan Friday #63
I support that AZProgressive Friday #80
Because NYC has a very large number of Jewish residents MichMan Friday #84
I'm.shocked JustAnotherGen Friday #78
I thought he was a Democratic Party Member JustAnotherGen Friday #73
Yep. The Purity Police are out and about. thought crime Friday #65
Being a Democratic Party member JustAnotherGen Friday #77
Yes. Loyalty is important. Oopsie Daisy Saturday #103
DUers can be Democratic Party Members and can also be DSA Members thought crime Saturday #132
That doesn't make sense JustAnotherGen Saturday #139
DSA is a PAC, not a party. LeftInTX Yesterday #144
How many people JustAnotherGen 22 hrs ago #146
I have absolutely no idea! LeftInTX 17 hrs ago #158
This is what appealed to me when i joined JustAnotherGen Saturday #140
Zohran Mamdani is a member of the Democratic Party. He is also a member of DSA. thought crime Yesterday #142
I can't JustAnotherGen 21 hrs ago #147
It's not a PAC or a Party. thought crime 19 hrs ago #154
Google AI Mosby 17 hrs ago #160
Yeah OK - good point. thought crime 16 hrs ago #165
So basically they are UU's JustAnotherGen 12 hrs ago #167
Indeed. The Purity Police at the DSA are proposing to censure a Democratic Congresswoman lapucelle Saturday #120
The DSA view on Ukraine is about as important as the disagreement between Slavoj Zizek and Yanis Varoufakis thought crime Saturday #135
No it absolutely did not, and that is absolutely not the reason Crunchy Frog Friday #95
I didn't say that was the reason AZProgressive Saturday #96
You are remembering incorrectly because there never was any such agreement. Crunchy Frog Saturday #97
This is what I was remembering AZProgressive Saturday #98
Yes, it was in negotiations with the Soviet Union and Soviet officials. Crunchy Frog Saturday #99
Interestingly enough, the Ukraine was a founding member of the UN DFW 21 hrs ago #148
This is an interesting video on the subject. Crunchy Frog Saturday #100
Sadly, I'm not JustAnotherGen Saturday #113
No Thanks OC375 Friday #58
Er.... you don't like the Nordic Countries system, then? electric_blue68 Friday #81
They have Social Democracy JustAnotherGen Saturday #121
Oh, oops! I got the Names of the Type of Gov't Mixed Up! TY, correction. electric_blue68 Saturday #127
I'm a Black America Gen Xer - my apologies JustAnotherGen 21 hrs ago #149
Ah, Gen X. 👍 electric_blue68 21 hrs ago #150
There needs to be set asides for Black Americans first JustAnotherGen 21 hrs ago #151
The Roberts Court decided that all the voter supression problems had been "fixed", lapucelle 18 hrs ago #155
Ah, got it. I could support that... electric_blue68 17 hrs ago #159
This old white lady agrees with you JAG mcar 20 hrs ago #153
Had not considered this group in my recent thinking. cachukis Friday #59
One can be a democratic socialist without being a DSA Bobstandard Friday #61
That is absolutely true. lostincalifornia Friday #62
Exactly +1 Emile Friday #83
If being wrong about a major policy or issue discredits a political party or group SSJVegeta Saturday #101
Oh please. The Southern Democrats of Jim Crow are now the Republican Party. SunSeeker Saturday #125
So youre saying there's a difference between the individual politicians and their party platforms/ policies and agendas? SSJVegeta Saturday #128
Unlike DSA, the Democratic Party is a big tent. Some Democrats may fail DSA's purity test. SunSeeker Saturday #130
Is that why there are a few dozen or so DSA sponsored politicians (who dont endorse the policy presented in the OP) SSJVegeta Saturday #136
Who are you talking about? SunSeeker Yesterday #143
The point I made is that nothing you say about DSA (outside of their specific platform) is representative of reality SSJVegeta 23 hrs ago #145
So no matter what anyone says about DSA, it's a lie? Come on. SunSeeker 8 hrs ago #168
Who knew the Mayor of NY directed US iemanja Saturday #102
I just saw JustAnotherGen Saturday #116
You think it doesn't matter if he agrees with DSA that NATO should be dissolved and its NYC headquarters shuttered? SunSeeker Saturday #123
Goodness, the mumbo jumbo is off the charts. Nixie Saturday #112
A shame they can't evolve into a positive force in 21st century America. betsuni Saturday #126
OPs Source Links are from 2022 thought crime Saturday #138
I don't have to agree with all their positions.. mvd Saturday #141
In my state we no longer register by party. Ping Tung 17 hrs ago #157
Back during the Cold War these type of people were called "Tankies" Jose Garcia 17 hrs ago #161
LOL. Thanks for that info. I never knew why they were called Tankies! SunSeeker 8 hrs ago #169
An even bigger reminder: Avoid Party for Socialism and Liberation! They're a political party, which is trying LeftInTX 17 hrs ago #162
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