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JustAnotherGen

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42. This is why I'm a Democratic Party Member

Reply to lostincalifornia (Original post)

Fri Aug 15, 2025, 05:30 PM

Aug 15

In January 2022 the Libertarian Party called on the US to leave NATO in light of escalating tensions between Russia and Ukraine.

I don't respect either party, and find their positions objectionable.

The Democratic Party President Truman gave the world this.

It's our thing. If the DSA wants to join forces with us - they have to accept that a Democratic Party President made certain the USA was one of the 12 Founding countries.

To be clear: My party, my party, my party.

That's why I'm at DU and not at DSAU.

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Just a reminder to those who may not be aware, the Democratic Socialists of America, (DSA), blamed the [View all] lostincalifornia Aug 15 OP

link? Shellback Squid Aug 15 #1

It isn't hidden. Just google it. This isn't new. lostincalifornia Aug 15 #2

"There are a lot of naive people in the world." soldierant Aug 15 #39

just got here.. I agree w this...was thinking of saying something similar. You covered it. 👍 electric_blue68 Aug 15 #66

Your excerpt is taken out of context al bupp Sunday #152

Thanks for the full statement by DSA.It makes a great difference. nt delisen Sunday #156

move on. AltairIV Aug 15 #3

No. Cha Aug 15 #11

Tell this to the people of New York City and Minneapolis question everything Aug 15 #60

He can win but...... AltairIV Aug 15 #64

Ummm... "the democrat party" ??? electric_blue68 Aug 15 #67

There is no such thing as the "democrat party" -- Republicans made that name up. SunSeeker Saturday #122

Well, as a NYC'r...NOT an Adam's, or Cuomo fan. So Zohran, it is. and* electric_blue68 Aug 15 #68

I think Zohran won because of his voter engagement, not just his DSA affiliation. Just my two cents! LeftInTX Sunday #163

I'm sure that helped. electric_blue68 Sunday #164

They seem to be here mcar Aug 15 #70

I agree with them n/t leftstreet Aug 15 #4

You'd just let Russia invade and take over Ukraine? yardwork Aug 15 #5

There are NATO troops in Ukraine? leftstreet Aug 15 #8

I think we're talking past one another. yardwork Aug 15 #15

I think so leftstreet Aug 15 #29

Wow. There's so many brown people in Ukraine being oppressed by NATO. Who knew? Hekate Aug 15 #17

There are a fair number of "brown" people being oppressed by Russia. yardwork Aug 15 #20

Ah, you could be right electric_blue68 Aug 15 #69

But my question was about the people NATO is accused of oppressing in Ukraine. I know about Russian conscripting from... Hekate Aug 15 #82

I don't know of anybody NATO is oppressing. yardwork Aug 15 #86

I think you and I are on the same page. I've been trying to tease out (so to speak) an admission... Hekate Aug 15 #89

What? About letting Putin rape and pillage Ukraine in the name of "anti-imperialism"? Crunchy Frog Aug 15 #36

Disband NATO and pull out of Ukraine are very bad ideas uponit7771 Saturday #129

I said nothing about Ukraine leftstreet Saturday #131

What country has NATO taken over with its "imperialism"? SunSeeker Saturday #134

They've screwed up a couple of times but I don't notice pattern of taking over people's property like a proper imperial uponit7771 Saturday #137

Hugh! H2O Man Aug 15 #6

lol, and Robb is a dingbat Shellback Squid Aug 15 #7

Well played! H2O Man Aug 15 #21

SERIESLY!! Call your congresscritter RIGHT FUCKING NOW!! madinmaryland Aug 15 #16

Where is Walt Star? H2O Man Aug 15 #22

miss his thoughtful posts, so many early DUer's are now gone Shellback Squid Aug 15 #35

Good question. That was an epic flame out. Skinner: "Ok". madinmaryland Aug 15 #50

Writing under an assumed name? Hekate Aug 15 #85

Now don't cast asparagus on our friends the socialists. yardwork Aug 15 #18

Ha! H2O Man Aug 15 #23

Or we're all screwn!!!! yardwork Aug 15 #24

The sky is falling! H2O Man Aug 15 #25

LOL! MuseRider Aug 15 #57

I remember the DSA response to the invasion of Ukraine LetMyPeopleVote Aug 15 #9

DSA also wants to dissolve the family Charmin One Aug 15 #10

What family? obamanut2012 Aug 15 #12

All familes eom Charmin One Aug 15 #13

How? obamanut2012 Tuesday #170

Aa DSA rondtable recommended it Charmin One Aug 15 #14

I'm a prostitute? JustAnotherGen Aug 15 #45

I like the UU's. electric_blue68 Aug 15 #79

We believe in potluck suppers JustAnotherGen Aug 15 #87

That's a good enough reason! electric_blue68 Aug 15 #88

In a same sex marriage, which one is supposed to be the prostitute? Crunchy Frog Aug 15 #94

Mind boggling JustAnotherGen Saturday #106

Ohhh, brother 🙄 electric_blue68 Aug 15 #71

It makes me question JustAnotherGen Saturday #114

I thought this was hyperbole but it's not. yardwork Aug 15 #19

Of course they are authoritarian. EllieBC Aug 15 #27

These people need to step out of the academia bubble. Ace Rothstein Sunday #166

The question of the family is not new OutNow Aug 15 #26

Good Lord. yardwork Aug 15 #28

What irritates me about this...well, there is a lot, but the main one... Behind the Aegis Aug 15 #31

Very good point. yardwork Aug 15 #33

While I am being "quippy" - I remember all of this. I Do keep an eye out on extremists. electric_blue68 Aug 15 #75

Imagine being so hateful EllieBC Aug 15 #32

Wow, that's insane. Family units of one sort or another exist accross all primate species, Crunchy Frog Aug 15 #41

And that is the truth Hekate Aug 15 #91

Yeah JustAnotherGen Aug 15 #46

Oh, "joy". 🙄 electric_blue68 Aug 15 #74

Last week at their convention, DSA tabled a motion to censure AOC. lapucelle Aug 15 #30

Mahalo for that on DSA "Tabling a Resolution to Cha Aug 15 #40

AOC JustAnotherGen Aug 15 #44

According to the DSA censure resolution, one of AOC's "sins" was endorsing Kamala Harris. lapucelle Saturday #107

Jesus Christ JustAnotherGen Saturday #109

Interesting... 80,000? Oopsie Daisy Saturday #115

WFP JustAnotherGen Saturday #118

Good gad mcar Saturday #124

Insanity! SunSeeker Saturday #133

I did not know about this. sheshe2 Aug 15 #53

Holy shit Hekate Aug 15 #92

Claims to counterculture notwithstanding, lapucelle Saturday #105

I'm not sure I agree with them on every point, snot Aug 15 #34

I'm not so sure mountain grammy Aug 15 #38

That sounds an awfully lot like endorsing the idea that some people have the right to own other people. Crunchy Frog Aug 15 #43

Ukraine is vital interest JustAnotherGen Aug 15 #47

Well... electric_blue68 Aug 15 #76

It's almost as if they're kooks. BannonsLiver Aug 15 #37

I agree LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #104

They flat out are JustAnotherGen Saturday #119

This is why I'm a Democratic Party Member JustAnotherGen Aug 15 #42

Of course they did! Their disloyalty and treachery to our country and to our party must never be forgotten. Oopsie Daisy Aug 15 #48

For the record mises.org is a right wing Nanjeanne Aug 15 #49

Mine is the Dekalb GA news JustAnotherGen Aug 15 #72

Like I said Im not debating NATO or DSA. Just pointing out that people need to consider sources and Nanjeanne Aug 15 #93

Thank you for the response JustAnotherGen Saturday #108

Left center bias and medium credibility. Minimal loaded wording. I'll take it. Love watching Al Jazeera America. Lots Nanjeanne Saturday #110

State Owned Propaganda JustAnotherGen Saturday #111

Okey dokey. Nanjeanne Saturday #117

Thank you for this very informative post, Nanjeanne Hekate Aug 15 #90

It looks like another attempt to prevent Mamdani from winning AZProgressive Aug 15 #51

This OP has nothing to do with Mamdani. And if you read the OP, that was stated explicitedly lostincalifornia Aug 15 #52

He's a Democratic Socialist running for mayor of NYC AZProgressive Aug 15 #54

So what. trump, putin, and the DSA are all on the same page that the U.S. should get out of NATO. Mamdani is lostincalifornia Aug 15 #55

I agree NATO is not part of his job duties AZProgressive Aug 15 #56

Neither is Israel, but he says he will arrest Netanyahu for war crimes MichMan Aug 15 #63

I support that AZProgressive Aug 15 #80

Because NYC has a very large number of Jewish residents MichMan Aug 15 #84

I'm.shocked JustAnotherGen Aug 15 #78

I thought he was a Democratic Party Member JustAnotherGen Aug 15 #73

Yep. The Purity Police are out and about. thought crime Aug 15 #65

Being a Democratic Party member JustAnotherGen Aug 15 #77

Yes. Loyalty is important. Oopsie Daisy Saturday #103

DUers can be Democratic Party Members and can also be DSA Members thought crime Saturday #132

That doesn't make sense JustAnotherGen Saturday #139

DSA is a PAC, not a party. LeftInTX Sunday #144

How many people JustAnotherGen Sunday #146

I have absolutely no idea! LeftInTX Sunday #158

This is what appealed to me when i joined JustAnotherGen Saturday #140

Zohran Mamdani is a member of the Democratic Party. He is also a member of DSA. thought crime Sunday #142

I can't JustAnotherGen Sunday #147

It's not a PAC or a Party. thought crime Sunday #154

Google AI Mosby Sunday #160

Yeah OK - good point. thought crime Sunday #165

So basically they are UU's JustAnotherGen Sunday #167

Indeed. The Purity Police at the DSA are proposing to censure a Democratic Congresswoman lapucelle Saturday #120

The DSA view on Ukraine is about as important as the disagreement between Slavoj Zizek and Yanis Varoufakis thought crime Saturday #135

No it absolutely did not, and that is absolutely not the reason Crunchy Frog Aug 15 #95

I didn't say that was the reason AZProgressive Saturday #96

You are remembering incorrectly because there never was any such agreement. Crunchy Frog Saturday #97

This is what I was remembering AZProgressive Saturday #98

Yes, it was in negotiations with the Soviet Union and Soviet officials. Crunchy Frog Saturday #99

Interestingly enough, the Ukraine was a founding member of the UN DFW Sunday #148

This is an interesting video on the subject. Crunchy Frog Saturday #100

Sadly, I'm not JustAnotherGen Saturday #113

No Thanks OC375 Aug 15 #58

Er.... you don't like the Nordic Countries system, then? electric_blue68 Aug 15 #81

They have Social Democracy JustAnotherGen Saturday #121

Oh, oops! I got the Names of the Type of Gov't Mixed Up! TY, correction. electric_blue68 Saturday #127

I'm a Black America Gen Xer - my apologies JustAnotherGen Sunday #149

Ah, Gen X. 👍 electric_blue68 Sunday #150

There needs to be set asides for Black Americans first JustAnotherGen Sunday #151

The Roberts Court decided that all the voter supression problems had been "fixed", lapucelle Sunday #155

Ah, got it. I could support that... electric_blue68 Sunday #159

This old white lady agrees with you JAG mcar Sunday #153

Had not considered this group in my recent thinking. cachukis Aug 15 #59

One can be a democratic socialist without being a DSA Bobstandard Aug 15 #61

That is absolutely true. lostincalifornia Aug 15 #62

Exactly +1 Emile Aug 15 #83

If being wrong about a major policy or issue discredits a political party or group SSJVegeta Saturday #101

Oh please. The Southern Democrats of Jim Crow are now the Republican Party. SunSeeker Saturday #125

So youre saying there's a difference between the individual politicians and their party platforms/ policies and agendas? SSJVegeta Saturday #128

Unlike DSA, the Democratic Party is a big tent. Some Democrats may fail DSA's purity test. SunSeeker Saturday #130

Is that why there are a few dozen or so DSA sponsored politicians (who dont endorse the policy presented in the OP) SSJVegeta Saturday #136

Who are you talking about? SunSeeker Sunday #143

The point I made is that nothing you say about DSA (outside of their specific platform) is representative of reality SSJVegeta Sunday #145

So no matter what anyone says about DSA, it's a lie? Come on. SunSeeker Sunday #168

Who knew the Mayor of NY directed US iemanja Saturday #102

I just saw JustAnotherGen Saturday #116

You think it doesn't matter if he agrees with DSA that NATO should be dissolved and its NYC headquarters shuttered? SunSeeker Saturday #123

Goodness, the mumbo jumbo is off the charts. Nixie Saturday #112

A shame they can't evolve into a positive force in 21st century America. betsuni Saturday #126

OPs Source Links are from 2022 thought crime Saturday #138

I don't have to agree with all their positions.. mvd Saturday #141

In my state we no longer register by party. Ping Tung Sunday #157

Back during the Cold War these type of people were called "Tankies" Jose Garcia Sunday #161

LOL. Thanks for that info. I never knew why they were called Tankies! SunSeeker Sunday #169

An even bigger reminder: Avoid Party for Socialism and Liberation! They're a political party, which is trying LeftInTX Sunday #162