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gab13by13

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14. Forensic audit
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 09:55 AM
Aug 16

A forensic audit: what it could uncover
A forensic audit involves more than just a recount. It’s a comprehensive investigation that reviews every aspect of the election process to uncover any tampering or errors. Here’s what such an audit could reveal:

Verification of rejected ballots
A core part of any forensic audit would be re-examining the millions of rejected mail-in ballots. If patterns of misapplication of rejection criteria were found, ballots could be restored, particularly in states with narrow margins.

Digital security analysis
Cybersecurity experts would examine the voting infrastructure for signs of digital tampering. Given the bomb threats linked to Russian sources and known attempts to influence U.S. elections in 2016, any signs of hacking or manipulation of tabulation software could be uncovered through such an audit.

Examination of paper ballots
In states where both electronic and paper ballots are used, a forensic audit could compare digital and paper records to identify discrepancies. This could reveal whether the digital tabulation was accurate, or whether machine errors or tampering led to inaccurate results.

International and domestic precedents for forensic audits
Across the globe, democracies have taken swift action to investigate election irregularities, often with far less evidence than exists in the U.S. today. Countries such as France, Germany, and Japan have long-established protocols for handling suspected election interference or malfeasance. These protocols almost always include forensic audits, often triggered automatically when interference is suspected.

France has cybersecurity laws that mandate extensive scrutiny of any suspected foreign interference in elections. If any credible threat is detected, a full forensic audit is conducted to protect the integrity of the electoral process.

Germany similarly requires an investigation if there is any suspicion of interference, even if the evidence is not overwhelming. The country’s commitment to electoral integrity means that any anomaly triggers a full review of the process, from the voting system to the final tabulation.

Mexico and Brazil – with their robust electronic voting systems – have made audits a standard part of their election protocols. Brazil’s system is particularly well-regarded for its automatic audit trails, which ensure transparency and accountability. In Brazil, any discrepancy or technical issue is reason enough to conduct a thorough review of the results.

Countries like Kenya (2017) and Austria (2016) have annulled or altered election results following audits triggered by irregularities, highlighting how forensic reviews can uncover critical issues that may affect outcomes. In Kenya, electronic tampering led to the annulment of the presidential election, and in Austria, discrepancies in mail-in ballots prompted a re-run, where the results were altered.

These cases demonstrate a crucial point: when foreign interference or systemic issues arise, audits are an essential tool for restoring public confidence and ensuring the legitimacy of the election outcome.

Why the US needs this
The 2024 US presidential election is marked by verified reports of Russian interference, bomb threats, and high rates of rejected ballots. In any other wealthy democracy, these factors would have likely already triggered an audit. Although several states have initiated recounts and audits, including Pennsylvania and Michigan, where narrow margins have triggered such processes, some have called for a more comprehensive forensic review of the election. These advocates argue that the stakes are high, and the integrity of the election process should be fully examined in light of verified concerns such as potential interference, technical issues, and high rates of rejected ballots.

The question here is not whether a forensic audit would change the results, but whether it will be allowed to happen in time to ensure that the results reflect the true will of the voters. A forensic audit isn’t just about confirming the legitimacy of an election—it’s about restoring trust in the democratic process. As other nations have shown, audits can uncover critical errors and prevent potential injustice. The U.S. should be no different in ensuring that every vote is counted and that interference—foreign or domestic—is swiftly addressed.
https://www.thecanary.co/global/world-analysis/2024/11/19/forensic-audit-us-presidential-election/

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Let me guess- he worked at Area 51 Abnredleg Aug 16 #1
Obviously one can't electronically hack something done by hand gab13by13 Aug 16 #2
The swing states did risk limiting audits Abnredleg Aug 16 #3
Yeah I know gab13by13 Aug 16 #4
It specifically covers the Presidential race. Abnredleg Aug 16 #5
No statewide forensic audit was done on the 2024 election. gab13by13 Aug 16 #8
Define a "forensic audit" Abnredleg Aug 16 #9
Forensic audit gab13by13 Aug 16 #14
That's better Abnredleg Aug 16 #17
So a forensic audit wasn't done gab13by13 Aug 16 #18
You're going to need to provide proof for this claim /nt Abnredleg Aug 16 #19
What claim? gab13by13 Aug 16 #24
If it's a fact, it isn't a widely held fact Abnredleg Aug 16 #36
*partial hand counts from a small number of precincts " questionseverything Aug 16 #38
That's not the process Abnredleg Aug 16 #39
You've said before... SickOfTheOnePct Aug 16 #21
No, there are graphs that show the anomalies, gab13by13 Aug 16 #25
The ones that ignore things like split ballots and voters not voting straight ticket on every race? MichMan Aug 16 #34
So you're saying that aliens did it? FBaggins Aug 16 #6
Which is where conspiracy theories inevitably end up EdmondDantes_ Aug 16 #7
Saying the earth is round was a conspiracy theory. gab13by13 Aug 16 #12
But you don't seem to clearly understand what Travis is talking about Fiendish Thingy Aug 16 #16
Except there's evidence the earth is round, unlike the election conspiracy EdmondDantes_ Aug 16 #26
Is that what I am saying, or are you putting words in my mouth? gab13by13 Aug 16 #10
Unsatisfactory explanation Fiendish Thingy Aug 16 #11
What are your credentials? gab13by13 Aug 16 #13
Maybe Travis is a moron? Fiendish Thingy Aug 16 #15
Or via Bluetooth? nt Disaffected Aug 16 #20
What is with that show, and the other one, "Mystery of Oak Island", or whatever it's called. brush Aug 16 #22
The people on Oak Island gab13by13 Aug 16 #29
Rewaring history, but for what reason? Seems like a lot of BS to me. brush Aug 16 #30
VVPAT and audits RandomNumbers Aug 16 #23
I notice they mention Risk Limiting Audits Abnredleg Aug 16 #37
Probably aliens! tritsofme Aug 16 #27
Green Maga from Mars did it! They like Cheeto Hitler's colouring, it reminds them of home. Celerity Aug 16 #28
Jim Baker used the example of casino slot machines. Blue Full Moon Aug 16 #31
Could be hacked and were hacked are not the same Kaleva Aug 16 #32
So, are you saying that maybe the MAGAT's weren't wrong when they said Trump really won in 2020? MichMan Aug 16 #33
Perhaps, but these election deniers are definitely arguing that Harris is complicit in covering up her own stolen tritsofme Aug 16 #35
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