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120. Last convo with an old friend regarding her not voting for Hillary: "she knows where the levers of power are" and...

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…”something, something Obama’s plan for a treaty to constrain China in the South Pacific is all wrong for reasons. “

Didn’t come to verbal blows or anything, but I was deeply disappointed on many levels because I knew who she was pals with and I had hoped they’d have more awareness. Then we lost touch…

In my opinion, Hillary knowing where the levers of governmental power were wasn’t a bad thing, and Obama trying to constrain China from taking over all of the South Pacific was extremely foresightful. Hillary would have tried to carry it forward if elected.

Kamala Harris — well, purity police strike again. The purity police would have deprived us of Obama in the first place — but funnily enough, misogyny couldn’t take out a man.

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