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1. MaddowBlog-The problem(s) with Trump's radical new executive order on flag burning
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 07:45 PM
Aug 25

In this country, a presidential executive order cannot override a Supreme Court ruling. On flag burning, Trump doesn't appear to care.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/problems-trumps-radical-new-executive-order-flag-burning-rcna227025

A few weeks after winning the 2016 presidential election, Donald Trump said he was prepared to take American citizenship away from those who burn the American flag, insisting there had to be meaningful “consequences” for such protests, even if the U.S. Supreme Court has already ruled that this is protected speech under the First Amendment.....

In his second term, however, he has apparently decided to take action — or something resembling action. NBC News reported:

Trump signed [an] executive order on Monday aimed at prosecuting people who ‘desecrate’ the American flag, a third fact sheet said. That order, first reported by Fox News, directs Bondi to ‘vigorously prosecute those who violate our laws in ways that involve desecrating the flag, and to pursue litigation to clarify the scope of First Amendment in this area.’


“What the penalty is going to be, if you burn a flag, you get one year in jail — no early exits, no nothing,” the president said, adding: “You will see flag burning stop immediately.”

Trump signs an executive order: "If you burn a flag, you get one year in jail."

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-08-25T15:11:52.954Z


......In this country, whether Trump likes it or not, a presidential executive order cannot override a Supreme Court ruling. In this country, whether Trump likes it or not, a president cannot create new criminal statutes — measures that would literally imprison Americans — without Congress.

As The New York Times’ Jamelle Bouie wrote in response to the Republican’s new order, “He literally thinks he is a king. ... This entire media blitz for when he signs executive orders is meant to create the impression that they are royal decrees.

To the extent that the administration tries to implement this policy, litigation would be inevitable. Whether Trump assumes that the far-right high court would rule differently on the underlying issue than it did 35 years ago is unclear. Watch this space.

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MaddowBlog-The problem(s) with Trump's radical new executive order on flag burning LetMyPeopleVote Aug 25 #1
It is embarrassing how clueless he is.. Peacetrain Aug 25 #2
Um.... what is, or isn't a flag? Girard442 Aug 25 #3
We can't burn the flag, but Trump wipes his ass with it every day. Ocelot II Aug 25 #4
I'd give him a year in jail for burning the US Constitution. Norbert Aug 25 #5
Not one single person will be put in jail for one minute Justice Brandeis Aug 25 #6
True; but they will be subjected to an initial arrest and threat of prosecution, Ocelot II Aug 25 #16
Don't executive orders only apply to federally controlled territory? Buckeyeblue Aug 25 #7
Not quite; they apply to the actions of federal *agencies.* Ocelot II Aug 25 #14
Whoever wrote it was smatter than that. Ms. Toad Aug 25 #18
Of course. But what it means *in practice* is pretextual arrests Ocelot II Aug 26 #21
Good practical advice. Ms. Toad Aug 26 #23
I would say flag burning is not an effective way to protest Buckeyeblue Aug 26 #24
I agree; I've always thought it was kind of dumb. There are more effective methods, IMO. Ocelot II Aug 26 #25
It isn't a way I would choose to protest. Ms. Toad Aug 26 #26
Guess he and his clown car cabinet never heard of the First Amendment/Freedom of Speech... brush Aug 25 #8
How many years will he get for crapping on our country? 2MuchNoise Aug 25 #9
Unfortunately not a day D_Master81 Aug 25 #10
You're right, of course. 2MuchNoise Aug 25 #11
The PEDO Rapist scumbag wants to distract JI7 Aug 25 #12
What if we burn Trump flags? Irish_Dem Aug 25 #13
Damn, the VFW is goin' to the slammer! rsdsharp Aug 25 #15
Not only can he not make laws - the paper he signed said zero about making flag burning a crime Ms. Toad Aug 25 #17
Deadline: Legal Blog--Trump wants to prosecute flag burners. The Supreme Court has already said that's illegal LetMyPeopleVote Aug 26 #19
Is there an epidemic of flag burning of which I am unaware? redwitch Aug 26 #20
How much do you get for autographing one? Vinca Aug 26 #22
Deadline: Legal Blog--Trump wants to prosecute flag burners. The Supreme Court has already said that's illegal LetMyPeopleVote Aug 26 #27
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