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In reply to the discussion: Trump signs order aiming for one-year jail terms for flag burning [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(169,209 posts)1. MaddowBlog-The problem(s) with Trump's radical new executive order on flag burning
In this country, a presidential executive order cannot override a Supreme Court ruling. On flag burning, Trump doesn't appear to care.
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https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/problems-trumps-radical-new-executive-order-flag-burning-rcna227025
A few weeks after winning the 2016 presidential election, Donald Trump said he was prepared to take American citizenship away from those who burn the American flag, insisting there had to be meaningful consequences for such protests, even if the U.S. Supreme Court has already ruled that this is protected speech under the First Amendment.....
In his second term, however, he has apparently decided to take action or something resembling action. NBC News reported:
What the penalty is going to be, if you burn a flag, you get one year in jail no early exits, no nothing, the president said, adding: You will see flag burning stop immediately.
......In this country, whether Trump likes it or not, a presidential executive order cannot override a Supreme Court ruling. In this country, whether Trump likes it or not, a president cannot create new criminal statutes measures that would literally imprison Americans without Congress.
As The New York Times Jamelle Bouie wrote in response to the Republicans new order, He literally thinks he is a king. ... This entire media blitz for when he signs executive orders is meant to create the impression that they are royal decrees.
To the extent that the administration tries to implement this policy, litigation would be inevitable. Whether Trump assumes that the far-right high court would rule differently on the underlying issue than it did 35 years ago is unclear. Watch this space.
In his second term, however, he has apparently decided to take action or something resembling action. NBC News reported:
Trump signed [an] executive order on Monday aimed at prosecuting people who desecrate the American flag, a third fact sheet said. That order, first reported by Fox News, directs Bondi to vigorously prosecute those who violate our laws in ways that involve desecrating the flag, and to pursue litigation to clarify the scope of First Amendment in this area.
What the penalty is going to be, if you burn a flag, you get one year in jail no early exits, no nothing, the president said, adding: You will see flag burning stop immediately.
Trump signs an executive order: "If you burn a flag, you get one year in jail."
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-08-25T15:11:52.954Z
......In this country, whether Trump likes it or not, a presidential executive order cannot override a Supreme Court ruling. In this country, whether Trump likes it or not, a president cannot create new criminal statutes measures that would literally imprison Americans without Congress.
As The New York Times Jamelle Bouie wrote in response to the Republicans new order, He literally thinks he is a king. ... This entire media blitz for when he signs executive orders is meant to create the impression that they are royal decrees.
To the extent that the administration tries to implement this policy, litigation would be inevitable. Whether Trump assumes that the far-right high court would rule differently on the underlying issue than it did 35 years ago is unclear. Watch this space.
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MaddowBlog-The problem(s) with Trump's radical new executive order on flag burning
LetMyPeopleVote
Aug 25
#1
True; but they will be subjected to an initial arrest and threat of prosecution,
Ocelot II
Aug 25
#16
I agree; I've always thought it was kind of dumb. There are more effective methods, IMO.
Ocelot II
Aug 26
#25
Guess he and his clown car cabinet never heard of the First Amendment/Freedom of Speech...
brush
Aug 25
#8
Not only can he not make laws - the paper he signed said zero about making flag burning a crime
Ms. Toad
Aug 25
#17