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Ms. Toad

(37,603 posts)
26. It isn't a way I would choose to protest.
Tue Aug 26, 2025, 05:09 PM
Aug 26

I've never (at least since I was pre-teens) said the pledge of allegiance. Pledging my allegiance to a piece of cloth just doesn't speak to me. My allegiance is to God and to all of humankind way before it is to a piece of cloth that represents dogmatic nationalism.

I also don't think it is effective - protests which are effective don't file people up without making them think. Flag burning almost exclusively riles people up for no reason other than they have internalized that the flag is sacred. If they aren't thinking, they aren't likely to change their ways.

I'm not convinced that boycotting is the most effective way either (although I am currently boycotting Target). It runs the risk of harming people who are caught in the low-skilled/take whatever job you can get cycle. What was effective during the vietnam era were large multi-generational protests. What was effective in the civil rights era were "likeable" people who put their names and lives on the line. I don't know yet what will be effective here - but chance that it is flag burning are slim to none.

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MaddowBlog-The problem(s) with Trump's radical new executive order on flag burning LetMyPeopleVote Aug 25 #1
It is embarrassing how clueless he is.. Peacetrain Aug 25 #2
Um.... what is, or isn't a flag? Girard442 Aug 25 #3
We can't burn the flag, but Trump wipes his ass with it every day. Ocelot II Aug 25 #4
I'd give him a year in jail for burning the US Constitution. Norbert Aug 25 #5
Not one single person will be put in jail for one minute Justice Brandeis Aug 25 #6
True; but they will be subjected to an initial arrest and threat of prosecution, Ocelot II Aug 25 #16
Don't executive orders only apply to federally controlled territory? Buckeyeblue Aug 25 #7
Not quite; they apply to the actions of federal *agencies.* Ocelot II Aug 25 #14
Whoever wrote it was smatter than that. Ms. Toad Aug 25 #18
Of course. But what it means *in practice* is pretextual arrests Ocelot II Aug 26 #21
Good practical advice. Ms. Toad Aug 26 #23
I would say flag burning is not an effective way to protest Buckeyeblue Aug 26 #24
I agree; I've always thought it was kind of dumb. There are more effective methods, IMO. Ocelot II Aug 26 #25
It isn't a way I would choose to protest. Ms. Toad Aug 26 #26
Guess he and his clown car cabinet never heard of the First Amendment/Freedom of Speech... brush Aug 25 #8
How many years will he get for crapping on our country? 2MuchNoise Aug 25 #9
Unfortunately not a day D_Master81 Aug 25 #10
You're right, of course. 2MuchNoise Aug 25 #11
The PEDO Rapist scumbag wants to distract JI7 Aug 25 #12
What if we burn Trump flags? Irish_Dem Aug 25 #13
Damn, the VFW is goin' to the slammer! rsdsharp Aug 25 #15
Not only can he not make laws - the paper he signed said zero about making flag burning a crime Ms. Toad Aug 25 #17
Deadline: Legal Blog--Trump wants to prosecute flag burners. The Supreme Court has already said that's illegal LetMyPeopleVote Aug 26 #19
Is there an epidemic of flag burning of which I am unaware? redwitch Aug 26 #20
How much do you get for autographing one? Vinca Aug 26 #22
Deadline: Legal Blog--Trump wants to prosecute flag burners. The Supreme Court has already said that's illegal LetMyPeopleVote Aug 26 #27
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