Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

AnnaLee

(1,304 posts)
19. The hidden taxation
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 11:06 AM
Aug 31

Tariff talk really targets ignorance in people. I cannot see how I could get my Texas brother in law, who is actually smart enough, to drop his worship of Trump and hatred of Peloski long enough to figure this out or even listen to someone making the point.

All of us know that tariff is just another name for federal sales tax and that it is highly regressive. In states we know we pay some percent of spending, with known exceptions, in sales tax. This federal sales tax seems intractable to me. You know prices around you are going up but parcing out what percent is due to tariffs seems impossible.

Also, the tax introduction comes in slowly, and, at some point should level out IF the before import price remains the same. If not, you pay tax on the added price too but still don't know how much. It leveled off but, like all sales taxes, never became constant. (If import price goes down, it goes down. Works both ways but you never can actually enumerate it in your life.) I know that you know Canada's current tariff on cars is 25%, but, how do you know if the pass through embedded in the price is more than, equal to, or less than the tariff?

At any rate, it isn't itemized on your sales receipt like other sales taxes but, like all federal taxes, it goes to the government and you never saw the amount of tax you paid enumerated. For lower and middle class Americans, most income taxes didn't change to compensate and those that did weren't permanent. That is not good if the tariff, via stolen elections, never goes down.

Indeed, at some point, they might just drop the tariff language and enact the equivalent sales tax directly. In an authoritarian regime, the winners don't need to worry about the losers any more. The only thing that holds poor people's tax down is not having enough money to spend in the first place.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Everything Trump touches dies. GoCubsGo Aug 31 #1
Yup. Stay strong. Joinfortmill Aug 31 #13
ETTD peggysue2 Aug 31 #18
True. I guess we should hope that he touches himself more. tinrobot Aug 31 #21
He still believes that people voted for Trump because they thought he would lower prices? Walleye Aug 31 #2
On those two metrics, misogyny and racism, Trump is doing quite well with his supporters. sop Aug 31 #3
Yes. And I don't see what kind of Democratic "messaging" will undo this. Walleye Aug 31 #4
Like saying Democrats need health care as a right not privilege policy and when informed it's been in the party betsuni Aug 31 #17
"flying blind" indeed. In his inner circle of sycophants he IS "The State" underpants Aug 31 #5
I was hoping to be more comforted by this post MadameButterfly Aug 31 #6
We've heard all this before PJMcK Aug 31 #7
Bingo. OldBaldy1701E Aug 31 #8
I concur Orrex Aug 31 #10
He literally got away with 100% of EVERYTHING that dogged him in his first term. Miles Archer Aug 31 #15
His 6 POS on the SC will maintain his legacy of hate and racism for generations wolfie001 Aug 31 #9
Not a secure website? roscoeroscoe Aug 31 #11
"Security" is not for you... hunter Aug 31 #16
This makes sense and offers some hope. But, it's scary out there. VOTE like your life depended on it, because it does. Joinfortmill Aug 31 #12
He completely ruined the state of Ohio samplegirl Aug 31 #14
Sherrod Brown will win the next Senate race MadameButterfly Aug 31 #20
The hidden taxation AnnaLee Aug 31 #19
"Rest assured. The seeds of Trump's destruction have already been sown. He will overreach." LudwigPastorius Aug 31 #22
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Robert Reich: Sunday Tho...»Reply #19