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EndlessWire

(8,088 posts) Wed Sep 3, 2025, 10:40 AM Sep 3

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Why is this not an act of war? [View all]

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We sailed an overwhelming military force off the shores of Venezuela, and then sank a Venezualan flagged little boat, and killed 11 sailors. Apparently, no regrets.

I object to my country doing this. It served no purpose except to feed the desires of Trump and Hegseth for experiencing a pseudo war scenario with real victims. Venezuela has a right to sail boats.

This is disturbing in an eerie and dystopian way. Trump is overstepping an international boundary in our name, as if our military was his alone. And, no one seems to care. Trump picks on countries that are weaker than us. Venezuela's problems are not something that we can just declare objectionable and that we are going to fix by blowing up one of their boats. It's not our business, except to monitor.

Trump is a liar and excuse maker. He tells us lies that he thinks will fly to cover his sorry ass for unprovoked aggession. Venezuela has OIL. So does Guyana. The profits Trump will realize come from oil. But, it is my belief that he also wants profits from the drug cartels. He isn't concerned with drugs flowing into the United States. He isn't trying to protect us. He's into control of a cash flow he sees.

It's disgusting. It is embarrassing. It is immensely sad. No one is saying that Maduro is anything but a pig, or that Venezuela would not be better off without him. But, it's not our business, not when we are executing sailors without cause. The whole world is watching this.

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Why is this not an act of war? [View all] EndlessWire Sep 3 OP

Especially since trump and his family members are known cocaine users Blues Heron Sep 3 #1

I am not aware of any indication that the people on the boat were sailors, that is, members of the Venezuelan Navy. mahatmakanejeeves Sep 3 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author markodochartaigh Sep 3 #5

I'm looking forward to learning what evidence there is that it was a drug-smuggling operation. Martin68 Sep 3 #19

And proof it was headed to the U.S. like they claim. KS Toronado Sep 3 #41

The Skipper and Gilligan were sailors. BidenRocks Sep 3 #25

Because we're the United States choie Sep 3 #3

Right SCantiGOP Sep 3 #15

Bullying the planet is normal malaise Sep 3 #4

Keep it up oh orange one and someone is gonna get ya. twodogsbarking Sep 3 #6

Malcolm Nance just called this an 'Act of War' on the Stephanie Miller Show. rubbersole Sep 3 #7

Every time Reagan/HWBush popsdenver Sep 3 #8

Operation "Just 'Cause", as I call it. Harker Sep 3 #10

Your apostrophe is significant; adding it puts a true spin on the name Bernardo de La Paz Sep 3 #14

Yes, that one little punctuation mark does a lot of work. Harker Sep 3 #16

Good thing popsdenver Sep 3 #36

"I love the poorly educated", said D.J. Trumpsky. Harker Sep 3 #38

And he kept repeating it, popsdenver Sep 3 #39

It is an act of war. kentuck Sep 3 #9

Trump Is Trying To Be Putin Mr.Bee Sep 3 #11

Yes, he's trying his best to emulate his puppet master... slightlv Sep 3 #34

Putin is one master popsdenver Sep 3 #37

The people were killed extra-judicially because capturing them was inconvenient, though easy to do. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 3 #12

Capturing them would not have the 'punch' for the press. OldBaldy1701E Sep 4 #60

It is not only an act of war, it is a criminal act, punishable by the world court. Scalded Nun Sep 3 #13

The long time refusal to ratify international treaties, like pat_k Sep 3 #48

Are you kidding WmChris Sep 3 #17

Killing foreign citizens is a precursor to killng American citizens. CaptainTruth Sep 3 #18

It is an act of war. ananda Sep 3 #20

Our heroic navy was protecting Miami from being stormed by the Venezuelan navy.....or something. Ping Tung Sep 3 #21

Shameful acts of murder to distract from Epstein. Botany Sep 3 #22

The same reason we didn't declare war on Saudi Arabia after 15 of their citizens attacked us on 9/11. bluedigger Sep 3 #23

I hate Republicans. They are always so goddamned eager for war. llmart Sep 3 #24

Trump is largely controlled by Peter Thiel and Steven Miller. This action was determined to make a military emergency Ford_Prefect Sep 3 #26

It's a "might makes right" mentality FullySupportDems Sep 3 #27

It's a test. They always start small. live love laugh Sep 3 #28

"Trump picks on countries that are weaker than us" Ray Bruns Sep 3 #29

it is LymphocyteLover Sep 3 #30

Turned on the news this a.m. & got a clip of Trump saying they had "drugs...lots of drugs were on board..." Hekate Sep 3 #31

11 lose their lives so trump can bury epstein papers. C Moon Sep 3 #32

Easy--they have no conscience. lastlib Sep 3 #44

We killed eleven people for theater. Iggo Sep 3 #33

Twelve... the guy who was shot the day of trumps "assassination" attempt too IcyPeas Sep 3 #40

Recommended. H2O Man Sep 3 #35

It's a war crime. James48 Sep 3 #42

Is this The Felon's Gulf of Tonkin? lastlib Sep 3 #43

Wow, the US murdered 11 Venezuelans Farmer-Rick Sep 3 #45

I have no delusions that it was anything but drug runners. JohnnyRingo Sep 3 #46

Venezuela's Communications Minister, Erda Sep 3 #47

Colombia's President has called this an assassination of youngsters living in poverty... GreenWave Sep 3 #51

Probably because Venezuela is not in much of a position to fight back Warpy Sep 3 #49

The United States is incapable of greatness with republicans in charge. Not great, not great again, period. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Sep 3 #50

It's an act of piracy, not war. malthaussen Sep 3 #52

Not that the orange asshole or his room full dopes Javaman Sep 3 #53

It is really disturbing that the military carried out his order to murder 11 people. SunSeeker Sep 3 #54

TACO has and will have a lot of security (until that day comes) SayItLoud Sep 3 #55

It's scary how much military strength this murderous fascist has at his hands. GoodRaisin Sep 3 #56

Where are the generals to push back against Cheetoilini? William Gustafson Sep 3 #57

Were there children in the boat? Bernardo de La Paz Sep 3 #58

It is an act of war... Godot51 Sep 3 #59