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Thu Oct 9, 2025, 12:39 PM Thursday

Centrist Dems Have Already Forgotten About Kamala Harris: Pivoting to the right didn't work in 2024. It won't work now. [View all]



https://prospect.org/politics/centrist-democrats-pivot-right-kamala-harris/



For decades, many Democratic pundits and strategists have had a simple answer for how the party could win: move to “the center.” Just look at Bill Clinton: After three consecutive routs in presidential elections from 1980 to 1988, Clinton ended the longest period of continuous Republican White House occupancy since the run-up to the Great Depression.

Democrats’ 1992 win is often attributed to Bill Clinton’s embrace of “Third Way” neoliberal politics, seasoning conservative economic policy with a pinch of putative social liberalism. However, as his secretary of labor (Robert Reich) recently observed, the 1992 campaign was far more heterogeneous than that telling lets on. In line with his iconic “it’s the economy, stupid” declaration, Clinton ran on significant fiscal stimulus, raising taxes on the wealthy, and public health care. Crediting moderation for the 1992 win misstates the order of events; tacking to the right followed winning the election.

Moreover, Clinton’s “New Democrats” did worse in congressional elections following the party’s embrace of Third Way politics over the course of early 1993, when advisors like Robert Rubin successfully pushed for abandoning more populist campaign promises in favor of austerity. From 1930 to 1994, Democrats controlled the House of Representatives for all but four years, or about 94 percent of the time. From 1994 to the present, the party has held a House majority only 27 percent of the time—eight years total. Democratic dominance in the Senate in the 20th century was less pronounced, with Republican majorities for 12 years between 1930 and 1994. Since 1994, Democrats have held Senate majorities for 12 years. That’s a drop from controlling the upper chamber 81 percent of the time to just 40 percent.

Now, this was not entirely about neoliberalism. The main reason for the party’s dominance in that period was the Democratic “Solid South,” and that was doomed once Democrats became the party of civil rights (though it took some years to shake out). Still, if Clintonite politics was so powerful, then one would expect winning the House more than a quarter of the time. Whatever the case, on the heels of the party’s 2024 defeat, Democrats are again searching for a way out of the wilderness. Unsurprisingly, a loud chorus is insisting the shortest path is a sharp right turn. It is hard to predict exactly what will work in politics, but compulsively playing up moderation and savvy positioning on key issues undermines the party’s brand, legitimates Republican talking points, and reinforces the perception that the Democratic Party stands for nothing.

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Will John Fetterman turn Republican before the Centrist Dems can nominate him? Ping Tung Thursday #1
Fetterman is not the person I voted for, gab13by13 Friday #26
Sigh. Why do they never talk about Ross Perot? leftstreet Thursday #2
That actually isn't true, at least not entirely dsc Thursday #4
Perot got over 19 million votes leftstreet Thursday #6
This has been proven wrong. W_HAMILTON Thursday #5
That's a BS GOP talking point SocialDemocrat61 Thursday #9
I can find links that say the opposite leftstreet Thursday #10
Really? SocialDemocrat61 Thursday #11
The Biden administration was the most progressive in decades... W_HAMILTON Thursday #3
The policies of the left *are* popular, supported by a majority of Americans Fiendish Thingy Thursday #7
Oh, so it falls back to the dastardly DNC rigging everything, just so we can ... lose. W_HAMILTON Thursday #12
Don't ask me, ask the DNC Fiendish Thingy Thursday #18
There's nothing stopping them from running as an independent progressive. W_HAMILTON Thursday #19
I think you're missing the point Fiendish Thingy Thursday #21
You are the one that blamed their losses on labels -- liberals, Democrats, etc. W_HAMILTON Friday #22
Again, you misunderstand my position Fiendish Thingy Friday #23
Evolve how much? We are already for most of the ideas progressives want. W_HAMILTON Friday #25
I'm not talking about perfectionism Fiendish Thingy Friday #28
There aren't many "rogue saboteurs" and it's something that's been addressed. W_HAMILTON Friday #39
Look at other posts in this thread for details on how Golden helped sabotage the BBB. Nt Fiendish Thingy Friday #40
Consultants get paid Bettie Friday #31
Biden's 2 big infrastructure bills were shredded by a handful of centrists and conservadems (Problem Solvers in the House Celerity Thursday #8
Thank you for providing evidence that the Biden administration was quite progressive. W_HAMILTON Thursday #16
Some will still not acknowledge why they lost and have been losing Passages Thursday #13
I've seen comments on this site suggesting that Dems move further to the right AStern Thursday #14
Harris was not a "pivot right." WTF!? NT. Happy Hoosier Thursday #15
Those who pivot to the left or are left can't win the primaries Kaleva Thursday #17
There it is! was waiting for this. gab13by13 Friday #29
That's about money, not policy. CivicGrief Friday #30
Bill Clinton turned the Democratic Party into the Republican Party MakeThemCry Thursday #20
Centrist establishment neoliberal shifted Right stands for nothing BILL CLINTON DESTROYED AMERICA betsuni Friday #24
It's ridiculous, isn't it? QueerDuck Friday #27
It's incredibly ridiculous considering the facts of the actual voting Nixie Friday #34
Not incredibly ridiculous there is some truth to it standingtall Friday #36
No. Just absolute disinformation. The whole reason the Nixie Friday #37
As far as losing messages go, it right up there with the idiotic "Defund the Police" message/slogan. QueerDuck Friday #38
Yes, that was a total loser and one they tried to pin on every Nixie Friday #41
So what's happenned sense Democrats have been moving to the right standingtall Saturday #42
Very selective and biased. As usual. "centrist shitting on Nixie Saturday #44
Democrats lost the majority in the Senate standingtall Saturday #45
There would have been no Iraq war if Gore was elected, but Nixie Saturday #47
Strawman standingtall Saturday #48
Your screeds are also straw men. Based on reality, those that said Gore was the same as republicans Nixie Saturday #49
Being able to deliver is a prerequisite gulliver Friday #32
This entire thread is the reason why Democrats lose. You all concentrate on policy too much. Wanderlust988 Friday #33
Exactly. The Tough Guy persona worked. Nixie Friday #35
Nah I believe policies matter standingtall Saturday #46
This depends on the issue. Ace Rothstein Saturday #43
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