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In reply to the discussion: Centrist Dems Have Already Forgotten About Kamala Harris: Pivoting to the right didn't work in 2024. It won't work now. [View all]Celerity
(52,488 posts)8. Biden's 2 big infrastructure bills were shredded by a handful of centrists and conservadems (Problem Solvers in the House
and Manchin and Sinema in the Senate).
Those 2 groups gutted 83.8% combined of BIF & BBB of Biden's new spend frameworks. 87.5% of the BBB alone in terms of new spending. Massively needed vital new programmes were binned, programmes that would have hugely aided us in 2022 and especially in 2024.
I am combining the totals of the two bills (BBB and the hard infrastructure bill) for the original Biden frameworks for new spending and then comparing the actual new spend passed to show how much the centrist and/or conservative Dem Problem Solvers and their Senate allies Manchin and Sinema gutted from Biden's proposals for those 2 bills.
Here are the fiscal numbers, with documentation:
Biden's original frameworks:
3.5 trillion usd for BBB
2.6 trillion usd for the BIF (see below)
A total of 6.1 trillion usd in new spend between the 2 bills was proposed by Biden
What was passed (via the IRA, aka the rump remains of the BBB after Manchin months before that, killed the BBB)
438 billion usd in new spend for the IRA (it was 433 billion usd but they added in 5 billion usd for drought programmes)
550 billion usd in new spend for the BIF (the 1.2 trillion usd total included 650 billion usd that was basic renewals of transportation programmes that have been around since at least the Obama and Trump administrations, and was not 'new programme' spending, it was just added to overarching package for budgetary reasons. Again, see below, at the bottom)
A total of 988 billion usd in new spend, which means 83.8% of the original 6.1 trillion usd has been gutted by Manchin and/or Sinema as it stands.
IF you just want to talk the BBB (a small part of which became the IRA) alone the percentage of gutting is even higher, 87.5%
here is the BIF gutting in some detail
The Infrastructure Plan: Whats In and Whats Out
Biden's original plan:

What was left after the centrist and conservative Dems took a 2+ trillion USD hatchet to it:

Those 2 groups gutted 83.8% combined of BIF & BBB of Biden's new spend frameworks. 87.5% of the BBB alone in terms of new spending. Massively needed vital new programmes were binned, programmes that would have hugely aided us in 2022 and especially in 2024.
I am combining the totals of the two bills (BBB and the hard infrastructure bill) for the original Biden frameworks for new spending and then comparing the actual new spend passed to show how much the centrist and/or conservative Dem Problem Solvers and their Senate allies Manchin and Sinema gutted from Biden's proposals for those 2 bills.
Here are the fiscal numbers, with documentation:
Biden's original frameworks:
3.5 trillion usd for BBB
2.6 trillion usd for the BIF (see below)
A total of 6.1 trillion usd in new spend between the 2 bills was proposed by Biden
What was passed (via the IRA, aka the rump remains of the BBB after Manchin months before that, killed the BBB)
438 billion usd in new spend for the IRA (it was 433 billion usd but they added in 5 billion usd for drought programmes)
550 billion usd in new spend for the BIF (the 1.2 trillion usd total included 650 billion usd that was basic renewals of transportation programmes that have been around since at least the Obama and Trump administrations, and was not 'new programme' spending, it was just added to overarching package for budgetary reasons. Again, see below, at the bottom)
A total of 988 billion usd in new spend, which means 83.8% of the original 6.1 trillion usd has been gutted by Manchin and/or Sinema as it stands.
IF you just want to talk the BBB (a small part of which became the IRA) alone the percentage of gutting is even higher, 87.5%
here is the BIF gutting in some detail
The Infrastructure Plan: Whats In and Whats Out
Biden's original plan:

What was left after the centrist and conservative Dems took a 2+ trillion USD hatchet to it:

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Centrist Dems Have Already Forgotten About Kamala Harris: Pivoting to the right didn't work in 2024. It won't work now. [View all]
Celerity
Thursday
OP
Will John Fetterman turn Republican before the Centrist Dems can nominate him?
Ping Tung
Thursday
#1
The policies of the left *are* popular, supported by a majority of Americans
Fiendish Thingy
Thursday
#7
Oh, so it falls back to the dastardly DNC rigging everything, just so we can ... lose.
W_HAMILTON
Thursday
#12
You are the one that blamed their losses on labels -- liberals, Democrats, etc.
W_HAMILTON
Friday
#22
Look at other posts in this thread for details on how Golden helped sabotage the BBB. Nt
Fiendish Thingy
Friday
#40
Biden's 2 big infrastructure bills were shredded by a handful of centrists and conservadems (Problem Solvers in the House
Celerity
Thursday
#8
Thank you for providing evidence that the Biden administration was quite progressive.
W_HAMILTON
Thursday
#16
Centrist establishment neoliberal shifted Right stands for nothing BILL CLINTON DESTROYED AMERICA
betsuni
Friday
#24
As far as losing messages go, it right up there with the idiotic "Defund the Police" message/slogan.
QueerDuck
Friday
#38
Your screeds are also straw men. Based on reality, those that said Gore was the same as republicans
Nixie
Saturday
#49
This entire thread is the reason why Democrats lose. You all concentrate on policy too much.
Wanderlust988
Friday
#33