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7. He did not 'run away' at all. He went to the UK in 2012 to get a degree, which you would know if you watched the very
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 02:31 PM
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beginning of the video. He did not go there with the intention of making it a permanent move.

As for 'staying and fighting', even when we had control of POTUS, The US House, and the US Senate, we were often blocked by centrists and conservative Democrats (ie members of our own Party) in Congress from passing a tonne of programmes that would have helped bring the US closer to having many things that most, if not all of, the other core Western nations have already had for decades.

Just taking January 2021 to January 2023 for example, Biden's 2 big infrastructure bills were shredded by a handful of centrists and conservadems (Problem Solvers in the House and Manchin and Sinema in the Senate).

Those 2 groups gutted 83.8% combined of BIF & BBB of Biden's new spend frameworks. 87.5% of the BBB alone in terms of new spending. Massively needed vital new programmes were binned, programmes that would have hugely aided us in 2022 and especially in 2024.

I am combining the totals of the two bills (BBB and the hard infrastructure bill) for the original Biden frameworks for new spending and then comparing the actual new spend passed to show how much the centrist and/or conservative Dem Problem Solvers and their Senate allies Manchin and Sinema gutted from Biden's proposals for those 2 bills.

Here are the fiscal numbers, with documentation:


Biden's original frameworks:

3.5 trillion usd for BBB

2.6 trillion usd for the BIF (see below)


A total of 6.1 trillion usd in new spend between the 2 bills was proposed by Biden


What was passed (via the IRA, aka the rump remains of the BBB after Manchin months before that, killed the BBB)

438 billion usd in new spend for the IRA (it was 433 billion usd but they added in 5 billion usd for drought programmes)

550 billion usd in new spend for the BIF (the 1.2 trillion usd total included 650 billion usd that was basic renewals of transportation programmes that have been around since at least the Obama and Trump administrations, and was not 'new programme' spending, it was just added to overarching package for budgetary reasons. Again, see below, at the bottom)

A total of 988 billion usd in new spend, which means 83.8% of the original 6.1 trillion usd has been gutted by Manchin and/or Sinema as it stands.

IF you just want to talk the BBB (a small part of which became the IRA) alone the percentage of gutting is even higher, 87.5%


here is the BIF gutting in some detail


The Infrastructure Plan: What’s In and What’s Out

Biden's original plan:




What was left after the centrist and conservative Dems took a 2+ trillion USD hatchet to it:



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