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Layzeebeaver

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16. "wrecks the environment"?????

Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:22 AM

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does nothing else "wreck the environment"?

Don't specifically select something out of context.

Fossil Fuel driven electricity giving you the internet connectivity to reply to this post?

Animal experimentation providing society with protection against contagions?

can we just stop with the false segmentation of values?

What exactly are we all fighting for here?

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I asked ChatGPT to rewrite "American Pie" to be more contemporary... [View all] Layzeebeaver Yesterday OP

de rec (for posting nothing but AI slop) Celerity Yesterday #1

actually, its not slop. I played a core part in framing and editing of this. Layzeebeaver Yesterday #2

Non sequitur. I never it was an attempt at passing it off as human made. Celerity Yesterday #6

That sounds human supremacist! Polybius 5 hrs ago #57

Your use of ChatGPT is unethical, if you're aware of the many news stories and the many posts here highplainsdem Yesterday #7

and if I did this on my own? Layzeebeaver Yesterday #9

Yes. Of course. It would be your own work. The difference is obvious. Just as there's an obvious highplainsdem Yesterday #11

So... a PHD dude in 1970 has 12 understudies... Layzeebeaver Yesterday #18

Please look up the meaning of "understudy" because you obviously don't know it. highplainsdem Yesterday #49

Yes. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #14

That is much too extreme a view. yardwork Yesterday #25

No, it isn't. If you're using AI without being forced to do so by your job or school, and you're aware highplainsdem Yesterday #43

Take a breath.............. Jack Valentino 18 hrs ago #53

Jeez. I actually DON'T use AI to write or create anything. yardwork 8 hrs ago #55

If you'd talked to the near-suicidal artists, writers and teachers (who see their students being dumbed down) highplainsdem 6 hrs ago #56

How was Celerity disingenuous? obamanut2012 Yesterday #32

That was interesting. 2naSalit Yesterday #3

Write it yourself. Don't use an unethical tool trained on stolen intellectual property. highplainsdem Yesterday #8

And write it in longhand with a quill pen and homemade ink. yardwork Yesterday #27

Stop being so silly. No one suggested that. I love tech that actually helps, and I had an HP laser printer highplainsdem Yesterday #44

One of my concerns... 2naSalit Yesterday #35

You don't want it stealing YOUR stuff, but you're fine with it being trained on all the writing by other people highplainsdem Yesterday #45

Whoa there... 2naSalit Yesterday #50

I don't use AI, but I've been doing this for years (just for fun). Latest example: DFW Yesterday #4

pretty cool... Layzeebeaver Yesterday #5

That's GREAT! Thanks for sharing. I enjoyed reading and humming-along. QueerDuck Yesterday #10

AI is the machine gun in WW1 part 3 Layzeebeaver Yesterday #12

There's nothing creative about shooting a gun. Tommy Carcetti Yesterday #33

Exactly. And there's nothing creative about having genAI do something for you. highplainsdem Yesterday #47

The people who'll be hurt by AI tools that dumb them down are not the ones refusing to participate highplainsdem Yesterday #46

Boring and vague. Not a fan of the original, but at least the wordplay and references in it mean something. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #13

A fair opinion Layzeebeaver Yesterday #15

"wrecks the environment"????? Layzeebeaver Yesterday #16

Damage to the envirinment is just one of a number of harms from genAI and the data centers being highplainsdem Yesterday #17

This is a deep subject Layzeebeaver Yesterday #20

There's no way to use genAI built on theft ethically. That's like saying you'll use slave labor ethically. highplainsdem Yesterday #22

did you actually read what I wrote? Layzeebeaver Yesterday #23

Yes. Which is why you got that response. You wrote: highplainsdem Yesterday #41

A guy from my office showed me what one of those programs could do DFW Yesterday #31

We can try to prevent worse from happening, or we can let it happen by saying "we've already come so far, why not WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #19

I'm not fighting for anything here... Layzeebeaver Yesterday #21

Fighting for open-mindedness? About something that reduces creativity, reduces brain activity, plagiarizes art WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #24

What? Layzeebeaver Yesterday #28

. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #34

Thank you for catching this and calling it out. ms liberty Yesterday #36

user name checks out eShirl Yesterday #26

Quite a poignant poem WestMichRad Yesterday #29

yea... unfortunate Layzeebeaver Yesterday #30

Weird Al Yankovich never had to use AI. ms liberty Yesterday #37

same applies to spell check... Layzeebeaver Yesterday #39

An inspiration by itself isn't music, or a book, or a painting. Just having an idea does not entitle you highplainsdem Yesterday #48

I'm not pretending Layzeebeaver 5 hrs ago #58

Ethics is not a separate topic. It's inherent when this tech exists only because of stolen IP. The fact highplainsdem 4 hrs ago #59

What exactly is "American Pie" anyhow? nt Disaffected Yesterday #38

"American Pie" was a silly jingle GenThePerservering Yesterday #40

Way too much Democratic whining over this worthy portrayal of current events. (nt) Paladin Yesterday #42

A Prius? How American. n/t flvegan 23 hrs ago #51

Exactly! Layzeebeaver 19 hrs ago #52

That is excellent! Thanks! Owl 18 hrs ago #54

considering the environmental and ethical issues involving this kind of slop Blue_Adept 4 hrs ago #60

"AI is a Ponzi scheme designed to harvest large investments....a way to destroy IP for the individual and vest it to the highplainsdem 4 hrs ago #61