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WhiskeyGrinder

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Reply to Layzeebeaver (Reply #28)

Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:53 AM

21 hrs ago

Last edited Sat Oct 11, 2025, 10:44 AM - Edit history (2)

What? reducing creativity? How? Who would have done this other than me thinking about it first?

No one did anything here, besides believe that slop from an autofill program was useful.

Reducing brain activity? How? I actually had to consider this deeply.

What did you consider?

Plagiarising? How? I'm not using the music or the words.

ChatGPT is "trained" on vast collections of art and writing created by actual people, without their permission. It's not sampling.

Also, if today we eliminated AI completely, would that cool the aquifers, reduce the shit in the air?

Asked and answered. Read up on what generative AI costs individuals and communities. And stop using it to answer people on a discussion board. Have some pride in yourself as a human being.

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I asked ChatGPT to rewrite "American Pie" to be more contemporary... [View all] Layzeebeaver Yesterday OP

de rec (for posting nothing but AI slop) Celerity Yesterday #1

actually, its not slop. I played a core part in framing and editing of this. Layzeebeaver Yesterday #2

Non sequitur. I never it was an attempt at passing it off as human made. Celerity 23 hrs ago #6

Your use of ChatGPT is unethical, if you're aware of the many news stories and the many posts here highplainsdem 23 hrs ago #7

and if I did this on my own? Layzeebeaver 23 hrs ago #9

Yes. Of course. It would be your own work. The difference is obvious. Just as there's an obvious highplainsdem 23 hrs ago #11

So... a PHD dude in 1970 has 12 understudies... Layzeebeaver 22 hrs ago #18

Please look up the meaning of "understudy" because you obviously don't know it. highplainsdem 15 hrs ago #49

Yes. WhiskeyGrinder 23 hrs ago #14

That is much too extreme a view. yardwork 22 hrs ago #25

No, it isn't. If you're using AI without being forced to do so by your job or school, and you're aware highplainsdem 17 hrs ago #43

Take a breath.............. Jack Valentino 8 hrs ago #53

How was Celerity disingenuous? obamanut2012 21 hrs ago #32

That was interesting. 2naSalit Yesterday #3

Write it yourself. Don't use an unethical tool trained on stolen intellectual property. highplainsdem 23 hrs ago #8

And write it in longhand with a quill pen and homemade ink. yardwork 22 hrs ago #27

Stop being so silly. No one suggested that. I love tech that actually helps, and I had an HP laser printer highplainsdem 16 hrs ago #44

One of my concerns... 2naSalit 21 hrs ago #35

You don't want it stealing YOUR stuff, but you're fine with it being trained on all the writing by other people highplainsdem 16 hrs ago #45

Whoa there... 2naSalit 14 hrs ago #50

I don't use AI, but I've been doing this for years (just for fun). Latest example: DFW Yesterday #4

pretty cool... Layzeebeaver 23 hrs ago #5

That's GREAT! Thanks for sharing. I enjoyed reading and humming-along. QueerDuck 23 hrs ago #10

AI is the machine gun in WW1 part 3 Layzeebeaver 23 hrs ago #12

There's nothing creative about shooting a gun. Tommy Carcetti 21 hrs ago #33

Exactly. And there's nothing creative about having genAI do something for you. highplainsdem 16 hrs ago #47

The people who'll be hurt by AI tools that dumb them down are not the ones refusing to participate highplainsdem 16 hrs ago #46

Boring and vague. Not a fan of the original, but at least the wordplay and references in it mean something. WhiskeyGrinder 23 hrs ago #13

A fair opinion Layzeebeaver 23 hrs ago #15

"wrecks the environment"????? Layzeebeaver 23 hrs ago #16

Damage to the envirinment is just one of a number of harms from genAI and the data centers being highplainsdem 22 hrs ago #17

This is a deep subject Layzeebeaver 22 hrs ago #20

There's no way to use genAI built on theft ethically. That's like saying you'll use slave labor ethically. highplainsdem 22 hrs ago #22

did you actually read what I wrote? Layzeebeaver 22 hrs ago #23

Yes. Which is why you got that response. You wrote: highplainsdem 17 hrs ago #41

A guy from my office showed me what one of those programs could do DFW 21 hrs ago #31

We can try to prevent worse from happening, or we can let it happen by saying "we've already come so far, why not WhiskeyGrinder 22 hrs ago #19

I'm not fighting for anything here... Layzeebeaver 22 hrs ago #21

Fighting for open-mindedness? About something that reduces creativity, reduces brain activity, plagiarizes art WhiskeyGrinder 22 hrs ago #24

What? Layzeebeaver 21 hrs ago #28

. WhiskeyGrinder 21 hrs ago #34

Thank you for catching this and calling it out. ms liberty 20 hrs ago #36

user name checks out eShirl 22 hrs ago #26

Quite a poignant poem WestMichRad 21 hrs ago #29

yea... unfortunate Layzeebeaver 21 hrs ago #30

Weird Al Yankovich never had to use AI. ms liberty 20 hrs ago #37

same applies to spell check... Layzeebeaver 19 hrs ago #39

An inspiration by itself isn't music, or a book, or a painting. Just having an idea does not entitle you highplainsdem 16 hrs ago #48

What exactly is "American Pie" anyhow? nt Disaffected 19 hrs ago #38

"American Pie" was a silly jingle GenThePerservering 18 hrs ago #40

Way too much Democratic whining over this worthy portrayal of current events. (nt) Paladin 17 hrs ago #42

A Prius? How American. n/t flvegan 13 hrs ago #51

Exactly! Layzeebeaver 9 hrs ago #52

That is excellent! Thanks! Owl 8 hrs ago #54