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highplainsdem

(58,608 posts)
56. If you'd talked to the near-suicidal artists, writers and teachers (who see their students being dumbed down)
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 10:26 AM
18 hrs ago

that I've met over the last few years, you'd understand that "adapting a little bit" and viewing generative AI as somehow good isn't okay unless you're willing to accept education and human culture being destroyed by genAI companies, for the profit of AI companies.

The AI companies have admitted their tools won't work worth a damn unless they're allowed to rip off the world's intellectual property. OpenAI has admitted in court that their tools need more training data than what's in the public domain and what they're willing to pay for.

Some AI bros - billionaires - have even recommended getting rid of all intellectual property laws if the AI companies have to abide by them. The billionaires will still find ways to punish anyone who steals their intellectual property, but they don't want others to have that right.

You saw how quickly the AI bros lined up to kiss Trump's ass and bribe him.

They're not intending to give people access to genAI for free, or for low prices, indefinitely. Both OpenAI and Perplexity AI have floated the idea of charging individual users as much as $1,000 a month. But they need the users hooked on using genAI first, feeling they can't get by without it.

Marketing genAI to individuals, they talk about it saving time and increasing productivity (neither of which it does, if you factor in the time needed to spot and correct the inevitable genAI errors).

Marketing AI to businesses, they focus on using AI so workers can be laid off. Sam Altman of OpenAI has said that the new dream in Silicon Valley is billion dollar companies with just the founder/owner/CEO and NO employees, because God forbid any of the profit have to be shared.

The AI companies are well aware of the harm they're causing - all of it. They. Don't. Care.

But we don't have to cooperate with their goal of steamrolling human society with the single most harmful non-weapon tech ever developed (and I probably should say single most harmful tech, period, because they're trying to get genAI crammed into as many weapon and surveillance systems as possible, even knowing the high error rate).

It's astonishing to me that they've managed to convince so many people that the high error rate with genAI is acceptable. I've seen people try to compare genAI to calculators, but calculators would never have become widely used tech if they made so many mistakes that the calculator companies had to include warnings to check all answers yourself, especially for anything important, like the standard warnings with genAI.

No one needs to use this harmful, flawed technology - which is NOT intended to benefit humanity, but to exploit it.

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de rec (for posting nothing but AI slop) Celerity Saturday #1
actually, its not slop. I played a core part in framing and editing of this. Layzeebeaver Saturday #2
Non sequitur. I never it was an attempt at passing it off as human made. Celerity Saturday #6
That sounds human supremacist! Polybius 17 hrs ago #57
Your use of ChatGPT is unethical, if you're aware of the many news stories and the many posts here highplainsdem Saturday #7
and if I did this on my own? Layzeebeaver Saturday #9
Yes. Of course. It would be your own work. The difference is obvious. Just as there's an obvious highplainsdem Saturday #11
So... a PHD dude in 1970 has 12 understudies... Layzeebeaver Saturday #18
Please look up the meaning of "understudy" because you obviously don't know it. highplainsdem Saturday #49
Yes. WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #14
That is much too extreme a view. yardwork Saturday #25
No, it isn't. If you're using AI without being forced to do so by your job or school, and you're aware highplainsdem Saturday #43
Take a breath.............. Jack Valentino Saturday #53
Jeez. I actually DON'T use AI to write or create anything. yardwork 20 hrs ago #55
If you'd talked to the near-suicidal artists, writers and teachers (who see their students being dumbed down) highplainsdem 18 hrs ago #56
How was Celerity disingenuous? obamanut2012 Saturday #32
That was interesting. 2naSalit Saturday #3
Write it yourself. Don't use an unethical tool trained on stolen intellectual property. highplainsdem Saturday #8
And write it in longhand with a quill pen and homemade ink. yardwork Saturday #27
Stop being so silly. No one suggested that. I love tech that actually helps, and I had an HP laser printer highplainsdem Saturday #44
One of my concerns... 2naSalit Saturday #35
You don't want it stealing YOUR stuff, but you're fine with it being trained on all the writing by other people highplainsdem Saturday #45
Whoa there... 2naSalit Saturday #50
I don't use AI, but I've been doing this for years (just for fun). Latest example: DFW Saturday #4
pretty cool... Layzeebeaver Saturday #5
That's GREAT! Thanks for sharing. I enjoyed reading and humming-along. QueerDuck Saturday #10
AI is the machine gun in WW1 part 3 Layzeebeaver Saturday #12
There's nothing creative about shooting a gun. Tommy Carcetti Saturday #33
Exactly. And there's nothing creative about having genAI do something for you. highplainsdem Saturday #47
The people who'll be hurt by AI tools that dumb them down are not the ones refusing to participate highplainsdem Saturday #46
Boring and vague. Not a fan of the original, but at least the wordplay and references in it mean something. WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #13
A fair opinion Layzeebeaver Saturday #15
"wrecks the environment"????? Layzeebeaver Saturday #16
Damage to the envirinment is just one of a number of harms from genAI and the data centers being highplainsdem Saturday #17
This is a deep subject Layzeebeaver Saturday #20
There's no way to use genAI built on theft ethically. That's like saying you'll use slave labor ethically. highplainsdem Saturday #22
did you actually read what I wrote? Layzeebeaver Saturday #23
Yes. Which is why you got that response. You wrote: highplainsdem Saturday #41
A guy from my office showed me what one of those programs could do DFW Saturday #31
We can try to prevent worse from happening, or we can let it happen by saying "we've already come so far, why not WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #19
I'm not fighting for anything here... Layzeebeaver Saturday #21
Fighting for open-mindedness? About something that reduces creativity, reduces brain activity, plagiarizes art WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #24
What? Layzeebeaver Saturday #28
. WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #34
Thank you for catching this and calling it out. ms liberty Saturday #36
user name checks out eShirl Saturday #26
Quite a poignant poem WestMichRad Saturday #29
yea... unfortunate Layzeebeaver Saturday #30
Weird Al Yankovich never had to use AI. ms liberty Saturday #37
same applies to spell check... Layzeebeaver Saturday #39
An inspiration by itself isn't music, or a book, or a painting. Just having an idea does not entitle you highplainsdem Saturday #48
I'm not pretending Layzeebeaver 16 hrs ago #58
Ethics is not a separate topic. It's inherent when this tech exists only because of stolen IP. The fact highplainsdem 16 hrs ago #59
What exactly is "American Pie" anyhow? nt Disaffected Saturday #38
No replies - maybe it doesn't mean anything? Disaffected 10 hrs ago #62
"American Pie" was a silly jingle GenThePerservering Saturday #40
Way too much Democratic whining over this worthy portrayal of current events. (nt) Paladin Saturday #42
A Prius? How American. n/t flvegan Saturday #51
Exactly! Layzeebeaver Saturday #52
That is excellent! Thanks! Owl Saturday #54
considering the environmental and ethical issues involving this kind of slop Blue_Adept 16 hrs ago #60
"AI is a Ponzi scheme designed to harvest large investments....a way to destroy IP for the individual and vest it to the highplainsdem 16 hrs ago #61
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