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highplainsdem

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59. Ethics is not a separate topic. It's inherent when this tech exists only because of stolen IP. The fact

Reply to Layzeebeaver (Reply #58)

Sun Oct 12, 2025, 12:40 PM

21 hrs ago

that you want to keep it a separate topic shows that you're aware you're in the wrong.

I'm not pretending
I was open and clear

You were with this OP - from replies above it appears others suspect some unidentified use of AI elsewhere - but no one fond of using AI can really be trusted not to be using it in posts not marked as AI. Something we've seen done on this board too often already. And when OpenAI surveyed their users a year or so ago about whether they'd want ChatGPT-generated results marked as AI, they were told that the majority of respondents did NOT want their own AI results marked as such. Because basically these are fraud tools.

Pathetic? That a personal opinion.

So you think it's just "a personal opinion" to point out that being happy to benefit from theft is pathetic?

That says a lot about you.

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I asked ChatGPT to rewrite "American Pie" to be more contemporary... [View all] Layzeebeaver Saturday OP

de rec (for posting nothing but AI slop) Celerity Saturday #1

actually, its not slop. I played a core part in framing and editing of this. Layzeebeaver Saturday #2

Non sequitur. I never it was an attempt at passing it off as human made. Celerity Saturday #6

That sounds human supremacist! Polybius 22 hrs ago #57

Your use of ChatGPT is unethical, if you're aware of the many news stories and the many posts here highplainsdem Saturday #7

and if I did this on my own? Layzeebeaver Saturday #9

Yes. Of course. It would be your own work. The difference is obvious. Just as there's an obvious highplainsdem Saturday #11

So... a PHD dude in 1970 has 12 understudies... Layzeebeaver Saturday #18

Please look up the meaning of "understudy" because you obviously don't know it. highplainsdem Saturday #49

Yes. WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #14

That is much too extreme a view. yardwork Saturday #25

No, it isn't. If you're using AI without being forced to do so by your job or school, and you're aware highplainsdem Saturday #43

Take a breath.............. Jack Valentino Saturday #53

Jeez. I actually DON'T use AI to write or create anything. yardwork Yesterday #55

If you'd talked to the near-suicidal artists, writers and teachers (who see their students being dumbed down) highplainsdem 23 hrs ago #56

How was Celerity disingenuous? obamanut2012 Saturday #32

That was interesting. 2naSalit Saturday #3

Write it yourself. Don't use an unethical tool trained on stolen intellectual property. highplainsdem Saturday #8

And write it in longhand with a quill pen and homemade ink. yardwork Saturday #27

Stop being so silly. No one suggested that. I love tech that actually helps, and I had an HP laser printer highplainsdem Saturday #44

One of my concerns... 2naSalit Saturday #35

You don't want it stealing YOUR stuff, but you're fine with it being trained on all the writing by other people highplainsdem Saturday #45

Whoa there... 2naSalit Saturday #50

I don't use AI, but I've been doing this for years (just for fun). Latest example: DFW Saturday #4

pretty cool... Layzeebeaver Saturday #5

That's GREAT! Thanks for sharing. I enjoyed reading and humming-along. QueerDuck Saturday #10

AI is the machine gun in WW1 part 3 Layzeebeaver Saturday #12

There's nothing creative about shooting a gun. Tommy Carcetti Saturday #33

Exactly. And there's nothing creative about having genAI do something for you. highplainsdem Saturday #47

The people who'll be hurt by AI tools that dumb them down are not the ones refusing to participate highplainsdem Saturday #46

Boring and vague. Not a fan of the original, but at least the wordplay and references in it mean something. WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #13

A fair opinion Layzeebeaver Saturday #15

"wrecks the environment"????? Layzeebeaver Saturday #16

Damage to the envirinment is just one of a number of harms from genAI and the data centers being highplainsdem Saturday #17

This is a deep subject Layzeebeaver Saturday #20

There's no way to use genAI built on theft ethically. That's like saying you'll use slave labor ethically. highplainsdem Saturday #22

did you actually read what I wrote? Layzeebeaver Saturday #23

Yes. Which is why you got that response. You wrote: highplainsdem Saturday #41

A guy from my office showed me what one of those programs could do DFW Saturday #31

We can try to prevent worse from happening, or we can let it happen by saying "we've already come so far, why not WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #19

I'm not fighting for anything here... Layzeebeaver Saturday #21

Fighting for open-mindedness? About something that reduces creativity, reduces brain activity, plagiarizes art WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #24

What? Layzeebeaver Saturday #28

. WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #34

Thank you for catching this and calling it out. ms liberty Saturday #36

user name checks out eShirl Saturday #26

Quite a poignant poem WestMichRad Saturday #29

yea... unfortunate Layzeebeaver Saturday #30

Weird Al Yankovich never had to use AI. ms liberty Saturday #37

same applies to spell check... Layzeebeaver Saturday #39

An inspiration by itself isn't music, or a book, or a painting. Just having an idea does not entitle you highplainsdem Saturday #48

I'm not pretending Layzeebeaver 21 hrs ago #58

Ethics is not a separate topic. It's inherent when this tech exists only because of stolen IP. The fact highplainsdem 21 hrs ago #59

What exactly is "American Pie" anyhow? nt Disaffected Saturday #38

No replies - maybe it doesn't mean anything? Disaffected 15 hrs ago #62

"American Pie" was a silly jingle GenThePerservering Saturday #40

Way too much Democratic whining over this worthy portrayal of current events. (nt) Paladin Saturday #42

A Prius? How American. n/t flvegan Saturday #51

Exactly! Layzeebeaver Saturday #52

That is excellent! Thanks! Owl Saturday #54

considering the environmental and ethical issues involving this kind of slop Blue_Adept 21 hrs ago #60

"AI is a Ponzi scheme designed to harvest large investments....a way to destroy IP for the individual and vest it to the highplainsdem 21 hrs ago #61