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MadameButterfly

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39. It's important to distinguish between the primary and the general election.

Wed Oct 29, 2025, 09:19 AM

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Mamdani supported "leave it blank" in the primary, not the general election. This was mainly symbolic since it wouldn't change the result of the primary election. In the general he stated that he "proudly" would cast his vote for Kamala.

No one is criticizing Dems for not endorsing Mamdani during the primary. Support (or criticism) of any candidate was fair game then. The issue is what they have done (or not done) since Mamdani became the nominee.

You are comparing what Mamdani did in the presidential primaries to what Dems are doing in the mayoral general election.
You need to compare primaries to primaries, general election to general election.

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So Democrats gang up against Mamdani in NY, yet are not speaking out as much against Graham Plantner in ME? [View all] Chasstev365 Yesterday OP

I do not believe that Graham Platner was an advocate for the anti-Harris "Leave it Blank" movement. QueerDuck Yesterday #1

I see a lot of Dem establishment push back on Platner Easterncedar Yesterday #2

Yes, in the end, it will be the voters of Maine who make the decision... QueerDuck Yesterday #14

I don't disagree Easterncedar 22 hrs ago #73

Well, she's popular enough to be elected governor and in the current climate of anti-GOP sentiment... QueerDuck 22 hrs ago #76

Platner is way more progressive than Mills Easterncedar 19 hrs ago #80

I do not find anti-gay slurs, racist rhetoric, or violent misogyny or a lack of forthcomingness regarding the Totenkopf... QueerDuck 17 hrs ago #94

Hm. MorbidButterflyTat 17 hrs ago #103

As Democrats, we can do better and not leap for the first fellow that comes along with a high profile endorsement. QueerDuck 16 hrs ago #105

He needs vetting... 2naSalit Yesterday #45

The state that keeps electing Susan Collins awesomerwb1 Yesterday #55

LOL leftstreet 23 hrs ago #67

We need a coalition that will sink her Easterncedar 22 hrs ago #74

Platner jaymac 22 hrs ago #72

They'd be speaking out against FDR if he were running today. sop Yesterday #3

They still hate him. Clouds Passing Yesterday #44

Which Democrats ganged up against Mamdani? Raven123 Yesterday #4

Most Democrats didnt support him at first SSJVegeta Yesterday #6

Really?? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #11

During the Primary? edhopper Yesterday #30

Which Democrats are endorsing Cuomo? yardwork Yesterday #41

Have you googled list of democrats who are endorsing Cuomo? Emile Yesterday #46

It's a pretty insignificant number Quiet Em Yesterday #50

So there are some, thanks. Emile Yesterday #52

Yeah, but outside of Eric Adams most people don't know who these very few people are Quiet Em Yesterday #54

Democrats who endorsed Cuomo other than Eric Adams are insignificant. Thanks Emile Yesterday #57

Well, I think Eric Adams is insignificant as well Quiet Em 23 hrs ago #60

Together we discovered there are Democrats endorsing the Independent over the Democratic nominee. Emile 23 hrs ago #61

Did you look at the list of Democrats endorsing Zohran Mamdani? Quiet Em 23 hrs ago #62

Yes, thank goodness. I hate to think Democrats would endorse the Centrist Independent Cuomo over Emile 23 hrs ago #64

Well, he is at odds with many Democratic positions, especially Israel Polybius 14 hrs ago #114

I think, in this case the phrase "ganged up" actually means... QueerDuck Yesterday #7

Thanks. That's what I wondered Raven123 Yesterday #28

Not a comprehensive list but here are the ones MadameButterfly Yesterday #19

Jeffries endorsed him last week... PunkinPi Yesterday #26

Yes MadameButterfly 17 hrs ago #104

Jeffries DID endorse Mamdani Wiz Imp Yesterday #29

She did indeed vehemently creiticize him but MadameButterfly 16 hrs ago #106

correction MadameButterfly Yesterday #32

I guess "2" is a number. Even lacking an endorsement, I guess we should all be thankful that no Democrat is... QueerDuck Yesterday #34

Gov Hochul counts, doesn't dhe? Easterncedar 19 hrs ago #81

Kathy Hochul endorsed Mamdani back in September Quiet Em 19 hrs ago #82

Exactly Easterncedar 19 hrs ago #84

Jeffries endorsed last week SocialDemocrat61 23 hrs ago #66

fair enough MadameButterfly 14 hrs ago #113

Did you listen to the show SocialDemocrat61 12 hrs ago #126

We don't disagree as much as you seem to think. MadameButterfly 21 min ago #130

Not a Democrat, a Socialist Democrat. Is this the new image of the party, for 2026? question everything 19 hrs ago #88

Correct. And... no. QueerDuck 17 hrs ago #95

It is withing the rules of the Democratic Party MadameButterfly 14 hrs ago #118

Mamdani is basically a New Deal Democrat SSJVegeta Yesterday #5

No he's not. But, that matter aside... QueerDuck Yesterday #9

What's the alternative? iemanja Yesterday #15

That's for the voters to decide, isn't it? QueerDuck Yesterday #20

Of course, they can always vote for Trump iemanja Yesterday #22

Is Trump on the New York Mayoral ballot? question everything 19 hrs ago #89

Yes iemanja 18 hrs ago #93

and Trump prefers Cuomo MadameButterfly 14 hrs ago #120

It's important to distinguish between the primary and the general election. MadameButterfly Yesterday #39

The "leave it blank" movement was a tool of voter suppression and an encouragement of apathy that lingered and carried... QueerDuck Yesterday #49

The anger that carried over into the general was fueled MadameButterfly 23 hrs ago #63

I'm ignoring nothing. I'm especially not ignoring those who promoted such idiocy and party treachery. QueerDuck 22 hrs ago #75

It was unrealistic to think they would do nothing MadameButterfly 16 hrs ago #108

New Deal/FDR Democrats are capitalists. Democrats are not neoliberals. betsuni Yesterday #23

The New Deal can be seen as a beginning of Social Democracy. thought crime 14 hrs ago #117

No he's not. Mamdani wants to help all people SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #27

I think that is an oversimplification. thought crime 14 hrs ago #111

Maybe but it's still true SocialDemocrat61 13 hrs ago #125

THE NYC election is in 6 days Danmel Yesterday #8

I hope Mamdani wins. Democrats need new faces and ideas. Lonestarblue Yesterday #10

There's some evidence he knew about the tattoo EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #17

Platner's tattoo was 100% a Nazi symbol. Wiz Imp Yesterday #31

What I heard was he was claiming the issue was more nuanced than posters understood MadameButterfly Yesterday #48

Platner's tattoo photos are readily available on the internet. yardwork Yesterday #42

Who are the democrats ganging up on Mamdani? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #12

Nobody. It's an absurd claim. QueerDuck Yesterday #16

It's part of a victim complex that exists on the far left. Something they share with the far right nycbos Yesterday #38

O come on MadameButterfly Yesterday #53

I think someone who doesn't call on Hamas... nycbos 23 hrs ago #65

Bingo. QueerDuck 17 hrs ago #96

People like this are incapable of self reflection or any kind of self accountability. nycbos 17 hrs ago #98

OK, we need to define who you are saying the far left is that is playing victim. MadameButterfly 15 hrs ago #110

I've been as clear and honest as I can be. QueerDuck 14 hrs ago #116

Good grief MadameButterfly 14 hrs ago #122

Sorry. I cannot help you any further. QueerDuck 14 hrs ago #123

i saw the interview you are referring to MadameButterfly 16 hrs ago #109

You know that's not true obamanut2012 Yesterday #58

It's what they say (claim) about him while not endorcing, that's the "ganging up" krawhitham 20 hrs ago #79

THEM. Victim of evil conspiracies by THEM ganging up and rigging and so on. betsuni Yesterday #18

The tattoo PLUS his statements about rape victims, Blacks, and LGBT Americans iemanja Yesterday #13

This. A million times... THIS. QueerDuck 17 hrs ago #97

I'm guessing this is an apples and oranges comparison bucolic_frolic Yesterday #21

RE: PLantner. There are some who argue that his ink was applied while he was in active duty and that getting a tattoo 3Hotdogs Yesterday #24

My wife met Mr Mamdani IbogaProject Yesterday #25

What's with the obsession of making Mamdani a victim ? JI7 Yesterday #33

Both the far left and the far right have a victim complex. nycbos Yesterday #36

Mamdani is not "far left" obamanut2012 Yesterday #59

I can assure you that supporting the "leave it blank" movement was not "mainstream" or "establishment" or "centrist". QueerDuck 17 hrs ago #99

Right. We shouldn't parrot right wing propaganda. thought crime 14 hrs ago #124

It is a victim obsession. yardwork Yesterday #43

He really doesn't JustAnotherGen 23 hrs ago #70

Exactly. And most of us support him. yardwork 22 hrs ago #77

No one's ganging up on him. nycbos Yesterday #35

He is not a Democrat. He is a Democratic Socialist. question everything 18 hrs ago #90

Yes... defunding the police is not "mainstream" or "centrist" or "establishment" either. QueerDuck 17 hrs ago #100

Democratic Socialists DSA is not a political party. thought crime 14 hrs ago #121

NYC will always get more attention. Always. Jbraybarten Yesterday #37

This OP is wrong on so many levels. yardwork Yesterday #40

They initially treated Bernie Sanders the same way when he ran for President in 2016 ChicagoTeamster Yesterday #47

He still didnt' win JustAnotherGen 23 hrs ago #71

I know he didn't win. I'm just pointing out the similarities to how they treated Bernie and Mamdani. ChicagoTeamster 20 hrs ago #78

And then Sanders became a millionaire and much more well known -- and proceeded to lose in 2020 even worse. W_HAMILTON 18 hrs ago #91

And that's how we got *rump questionseverything 17 hrs ago #102

No, it's actually how we got Biden and got rid of Trump, thank you very much. W_HAMILTON 16 hrs ago #107

"Became a millionaire...." Doremus 14 hrs ago #115

The right loves Bernie Sanders -- they just will never vote for him. W_HAMILTON 14 hrs ago #119

Sanders is not a Democrat. Seems that we are moving into creating a new face of the party question everything 18 hrs ago #92

a handful of Democrats, mostly NY pols, are playing politics in their own state bigtree Yesterday #51

There is no need for a person with a nazi tattoo... returnee Yesterday #56

The Deimocratic party hasn't chnnged much from it'sinception. Ping Tung 23 hrs ago #68

There's always JustAnotherGen 23 hrs ago #69

It's true there are high profile people against Mamdani - TBF 19 hrs ago #83

Once people see what it is like to have a $30 per hour min. wage, free childcare, free transportation & rent controls MichMan 12 hrs ago #127

Happy to report my daughter voted for him in Queens today - TBF 11 hrs ago #128

Conspiracy theories about cartoon villain Democrats are what makes people cynical. betsuni 19 hrs ago #85

Is he the one that called for intifada? JoseBalow 19 hrs ago #86

Used to.. question everything 19 hrs ago #87

Wow MorbidButterflyTat 17 hrs ago #101

Not speaking out as much against Graham Plantner? thought crime 14 hrs ago #112

No one is ganging up on anyone. Blasphemer 11 hrs ago #129