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MadameButterfly

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53. O come on

Wed Oct 29, 2025, 10:16 AM

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I've heard plenty of victim complaints from followers of more mainstream Democratic candidates/politicians. Of course White male Republicans get the prize.
If you can't tell the difference between Progressives and White Supremacists on this, you aren't really trying.

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So Democrats gang up against Mamdani in NY, yet are not speaking out as much against Graham Plantner in ME? [View all] Chasstev365 Yesterday OP

I do not believe that Graham Platner was an advocate for the anti-Harris "Leave it Blank" movement. QueerDuck Yesterday #1

I see a lot of Dem establishment push back on Platner Easterncedar Yesterday #2

Yes, in the end, it will be the voters of Maine who make the decision... QueerDuck Yesterday #14

I don't disagree Easterncedar Yesterday #73

Well, she's popular enough to be elected governor and in the current climate of anti-GOP sentiment... QueerDuck Yesterday #76

Platner is way more progressive than Mills Easterncedar Yesterday #80

I do not find anti-gay slurs, racist rhetoric, or violent misogyny or a lack of forthcomingness regarding the Totenkopf... QueerDuck 23 hrs ago #94

Hm. MorbidButterflyTat 23 hrs ago #103

As Democrats, we can do better and not leap for the first fellow that comes along with a high profile endorsement. QueerDuck 22 hrs ago #105

He needs vetting... 2naSalit Yesterday #45

The state that keeps electing Susan Collins awesomerwb1 Yesterday #55

LOL leftstreet Yesterday #67

We need a coalition that will sink her Easterncedar Yesterday #74

Platner jaymac Yesterday #72

They'd be speaking out against FDR if he were running today. sop Yesterday #3

They still hate him. Clouds Passing Yesterday #44

Which Democrats ganged up against Mamdani? Raven123 Yesterday #4

Most Democrats didnt support him at first SSJVegeta Yesterday #6

Really?? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #11

During the Primary? edhopper Yesterday #30

Which Democrats are endorsing Cuomo? yardwork Yesterday #41

Have you googled list of democrats who are endorsing Cuomo? Emile Yesterday #46

It's a pretty insignificant number Quiet Em Yesterday #50

So there are some, thanks. Emile Yesterday #52

Yeah, but outside of Eric Adams most people don't know who these very few people are Quiet Em Yesterday #54

Democrats who endorsed Cuomo other than Eric Adams are insignificant. Thanks Emile Yesterday #57

Well, I think Eric Adams is insignificant as well Quiet Em Yesterday #60

Together we discovered there are Democrats endorsing the Independent over the Democratic nominee. Emile Yesterday #61

Did you look at the list of Democrats endorsing Zohran Mamdani? Quiet Em Yesterday #62

Yes, thank goodness. I hate to think Democrats would endorse the Centrist Independent Cuomo over Emile Yesterday #64

Well, he is at odds with many Democratic positions, especially Israel Polybius 20 hrs ago #114

I think, in this case the phrase "ganged up" actually means... QueerDuck Yesterday #7

Thanks. That's what I wondered Raven123 Yesterday #28

Not a comprehensive list but here are the ones MadameButterfly Yesterday #19

Jeffries endorsed him last week... PunkinPi Yesterday #26

Yes MadameButterfly 22 hrs ago #104

Jeffries DID endorse Mamdani Wiz Imp Yesterday #29

She did indeed vehemently creiticize him but MadameButterfly 22 hrs ago #106

correction MadameButterfly Yesterday #32

I guess "2" is a number. Even lacking an endorsement, I guess we should all be thankful that no Democrat is... QueerDuck Yesterday #34

Gov Hochul counts, doesn't she? Easterncedar Yesterday #81

Kathy Hochul endorsed Mamdani back in September Quiet Em Yesterday #82

Exactly Easterncedar Yesterday #84

Jeffries endorsed last week SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #66

fair enough MadameButterfly 20 hrs ago #113

Did you listen to the show SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #126

We don't disagree as much as you seem to think. MadameButterfly 6 hrs ago #130

Actually I don't think we do too SocialDemocrat61 4 hrs ago #131

Not a Democrat, a Socialist Democrat. Is this the new image of the party, for 2026? question everything Yesterday #88

Correct. And... no. QueerDuck 23 hrs ago #95

It is withing the rules of the Democratic Party MadameButterfly 20 hrs ago #118

Mamdani is basically a New Deal Democrat SSJVegeta Yesterday #5

No he's not. But, that matter aside... QueerDuck Yesterday #9

What's the alternative? iemanja Yesterday #15

That's for the voters to decide, isn't it? QueerDuck Yesterday #20

Of course, they can always vote for Trump iemanja Yesterday #22

Is Trump on the New York Mayoral ballot? question everything Yesterday #89

Yes iemanja Yesterday #93

and Trump prefers Cuomo MadameButterfly 20 hrs ago #120

It's important to distinguish between the primary and the general election. MadameButterfly Yesterday #39

The "leave it blank" movement was a tool of voter suppression and an encouragement of apathy that lingered and carried... QueerDuck Yesterday #49

The anger that carried over into the general was fueled MadameButterfly Yesterday #63

I'm ignoring nothing. I'm especially not ignoring those who promoted such idiocy and party treachery. QueerDuck Yesterday #75

It was unrealistic to think they would do nothing MadameButterfly 22 hrs ago #108

New Deal/FDR Democrats are capitalists. Democrats are not neoliberals. betsuni Yesterday #23

The New Deal can be seen as a beginning of Social Democracy. thought crime 20 hrs ago #117

No he's not. Mamdani wants to help all people SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #27

I think that is an oversimplification. thought crime 20 hrs ago #111

Maybe but it's still true SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #125

THE NYC election is in 6 days Danmel Yesterday #8

I hope Mamdani wins. Democrats need new faces and ideas. Lonestarblue Yesterday #10

There's some evidence he knew about the tattoo EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #17

Platner's tattoo was 100% a Nazi symbol. Wiz Imp Yesterday #31

What I heard was he was claiming the issue was more nuanced than posters understood MadameButterfly Yesterday #48

Platner's tattoo photos are readily available on the internet. yardwork Yesterday #42

Who are the democrats ganging up on Mamdani? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #12

Nobody. It's an absurd claim. QueerDuck Yesterday #16

It's part of a victim complex that exists on the far left. Something they share with the far right nycbos Yesterday #38

O come on MadameButterfly Yesterday #53

I think someone who doesn't call on Hamas... nycbos Yesterday #65

Bingo. QueerDuck 23 hrs ago #96

People like this are incapable of self reflection or any kind of self accountability. nycbos 23 hrs ago #98

OK, we need to define who you are saying the far left is that is playing victim. MadameButterfly 21 hrs ago #110

I've been as clear and honest as I can be. QueerDuck 20 hrs ago #116

Good grief MadameButterfly 20 hrs ago #122

Sorry. I cannot help you any further. QueerDuck 20 hrs ago #123

i saw the interview you are referring to MadameButterfly 22 hrs ago #109

You know that's not true obamanut2012 Yesterday #58

It's what they say (claim) about him while not endorcing, that's the "ganging up" krawhitham Yesterday #79

THEM. Victim of evil conspiracies by THEM ganging up and rigging and so on. betsuni Yesterday #18

The tattoo PLUS his statements about rape victims, Blacks, and LGBT Americans iemanja Yesterday #13

This. A million times... THIS. QueerDuck 23 hrs ago #97

I'm guessing this is an apples and oranges comparison bucolic_frolic Yesterday #21

RE: PLantner. There are some who argue that his ink was applied while he was in active duty and that getting a tattoo 3Hotdogs Yesterday #24

My wife met Mr Mamdani IbogaProject Yesterday #25

What's with the obsession of making Mamdani a victim ? JI7 Yesterday #33

Both the far left and the far right have a victim complex. nycbos Yesterday #36

Mamdani is not "far left" obamanut2012 Yesterday #59

I can assure you that supporting the "leave it blank" movement was not "mainstream" or "establishment" or "centrist". QueerDuck 23 hrs ago #99

Right. We shouldn't parrot right wing propaganda. thought crime 20 hrs ago #124

It is a victim obsession. yardwork Yesterday #43

He really doesn't JustAnotherGen Yesterday #70

Exactly. And most of us support him. yardwork Yesterday #77

No one's ganging up on him. nycbos Yesterday #35

He is not a Democrat. He is a Democratic Socialist. question everything Yesterday #90

Yes... defunding the police is not "mainstream" or "centrist" or "establishment" either. QueerDuck 23 hrs ago #100

Democratic Socialists DSA is not a political party. thought crime 20 hrs ago #121

NYC will always get more attention. Always. Jbraybarten Yesterday #37

This OP is wrong on so many levels. yardwork Yesterday #40

They initially treated Bernie Sanders the same way when he ran for President in 2016 ChicagoTeamster Yesterday #47

He still didnt' win JustAnotherGen Yesterday #71

I know he didn't win. I'm just pointing out the similarities to how they treated Bernie and Mamdani. ChicagoTeamster Yesterday #78

And then Sanders became a millionaire and much more well known -- and proceeded to lose in 2020 even worse. W_HAMILTON Yesterday #91

And that's how we got *rump questionseverything 23 hrs ago #102

No, it's actually how we got Biden and got rid of Trump, thank you very much. W_HAMILTON 22 hrs ago #107

"Became a millionaire...." Doremus 20 hrs ago #115

The right loves Bernie Sanders -- they just will never vote for him. W_HAMILTON 20 hrs ago #119

Sanders is not a Democrat. Seems that we are moving into creating a new face of the party question everything Yesterday #92

a handful of Democrats, mostly NY pols, are playing politics in their own state bigtree Yesterday #51

There is no need for a person with a nazi tattoo... returnee Yesterday #56

The Deimocratic party hasn't chnnged much from it'sinception. Ping Tung Yesterday #68

There's always JustAnotherGen Yesterday #69

It's true there are high profile people against Mamdani - TBF Yesterday #83

Once people see what it is like to have a $30 per hour min. wage, free childcare, free transportation & rent controls MichMan 18 hrs ago #127

Happy to report my daughter voted for him in Queens today - TBF 17 hrs ago #128

Conspiracy theories about cartoon villain Democrats are what makes people cynical. betsuni Yesterday #85

Is he the one that called for intifada? JoseBalow Yesterday #86

Used to.. question everything Yesterday #87

Wow MorbidButterflyTat 23 hrs ago #101

Not speaking out as much against Graham Plantner? thought crime 20 hrs ago #112

No one is ganging up on anyone. Blasphemer 17 hrs ago #129