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usonian

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24. I believe that Kamala, more than the progressives, was a moderating influence on Biden
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 02:30 AM
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and obviously would have done infinitely more than Jabba the Orange Hutt to help victims of the hostilities.

That was not conveyed. I have posted for Dems to lead with their strength, and that happens to be economic issues , the ones that progressives are hammering. They are not ignoring social issues. They come up after the main theme in rallies.

Focus is crucial to stave off the damn "whatabouts".

I have maintained that Israeli's are betrayed by Bibi and that Gazans are betrayed by Hamas. Good luck trying to make anything better "cuz you're supposed to take one side over the other" and not humanity.

IMO Bibi and his cadre need to spend life in prison and same for Hamas. And that's just to stop the killing. Fat chance.

But the past is to learn from and people don't.

I argued that Harris would have been infinitely better for Gazans. But in CA it didn't really matter. It mattered a lot elsewhere. And I'll agree that the message was weak. I can only control myself.

Would a stronger message have made the difference? Maybe so, but it had really loud, energetic and powerful distractors.

Times have changed. Let's focus and make winning choices. Not to bury other important issues, but to focus on the big winners.

The others will then succeed.

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There was a massive and successful "split the Democrats" campaign. usonian Sunday #4
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I believe that Kamala, more than the progressives, was a moderating influence on Biden usonian Monday #24
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