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35. Does this include the 911,000 downward revision over the period April 2024 through March 2025
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 01:57 AM
Dec 2025

which was announced in September
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143526633

which includes 9 or 10 months under Biden's term depending on whether or not you include January 2025 in that (I do because Biden was president for 2/3 of the month, and more importantly, the survey that produces the payroll job numbers is conducted in the week that includes the 12th of the month -- that's well before the Inauguration date of January 2025).

They didn't break it down by month, and it's my understanding that they never will. They have some system where they target getting an accurate March 2025 total jobs number, and they don't use a month-by-month changes process to get there. So we will never know how much of the 911,000 revision occurred in the Biden months and how much in tRump's 2 months.

It looks like your link ( https://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cesnaicsrev.htm ) is just the monthly revisions that occur each month for 2 months, for example a May number is revised in the June report, and again in the July report.

And so it doesn't include the annual revisions like the one that was announced in September and will be finalized (likely with a revision) and made official in February 2026 with the with the publication of the January 2026 Employment Situation news release.

Re: some new posts in the thread -- one may have all kinds of reasons to believe that tRump era numbers are being fudged. But it is FALSE to claim that Powell said the numbers are being fudged (or even implied that), at least based on the WSJ article in the OP (see my #22 ) . But unfortunately some people insist on misleading their fellow progressives.

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No effn doubt that ALL negative numbers are being fudged vapor2 Dec 2025 #1
Didn't Krasnov just hold an economic rally in the Poconos, gab13by13 Dec 2025 #2
BLS numbers have not been "fudged" and Jerome Powell did not Wiz Imp Dec 2025 #15
Did you read the supplied link ? KS Toronado Dec 2025 #20
Thank you. You're right, he did not. And a technical note from the BLS on the size of sampling error progree Dec 2025 #22
Kick dalton99a Dec 2025 #3
Read an article on Yahoo the other day... Xolodno Dec 2025 #4
That is absolutely NOT what they said. Wiz Imp Dec 2025 #14
Think we may have read two different articles. Xolodno Dec 2025 #21
You may be right, but they both referred to the same rport from Challenger. Wiz Imp Dec 2025 #25
You don't have to explain it to me. Xolodno Dec 2025 #34
The article doesn't say that has anything to do with Trump EdmondDantes_ Dec 2025 #5
BLS has had since April to revise its numbers down, gab13by13 Dec 2025 #6
The same amount of time every other president does EdmondDantes_ Dec 2025 #23
I don't remember when Biden was president that those numbers had to be lowered, gab13by13 Dec 2025 #27
Because your memory isn't accurate is my guess EdmondDantes_ Dec 2025 #31
Does this include the 911,000 downward revision over the period April 2024 through March 2025 progree Dec 2025 #35
and does this include the 589,000 downward benchmark revision from April 2023 thru March 2024? progree Dec 2025 #36
Wall St. Will listen to Powell, not Trump. Nt Fiendish Thingy Dec 2025 #7
This is why Powell is lowering interest rates, gab13by13 Dec 2025 #8
Every month, they re-state previous months' numbers... Mark.b2 Dec 2025 #9
You obviously know nothing about how sample based estimates are derived. Wiz Imp Dec 2025 #13
The only thing I know is the quality of the estimates... Mark.b2 Dec 2025 #19
The estimates are based on a relatively small statistical sample Wiz Imp Dec 2025 #26
Thank you! Very interesting and helpful. Nt Mark.b2 Dec 2025 #32
AND popsdenver Dec 2025 #10
I was in post office yesterday to mail Christmas stuff tavernier Dec 2025 #24
Nope popsdenver Dec 2025 #33
The Fed lowers interest rates when the economy is doing badly. It's to stimulate the economy IronLionZion Dec 2025 #11
You sound exactly like Trump Wiz Imp Dec 2025 #12
I simply want you to explain one fact for me, gab13by13 Dec 2025 #28
I wouldn't trust any figures Figarosmom Dec 2025 #16
This is why I think a lot of magas are now quitting. C Moon Dec 2025 #17
why does it say the US Skittles Dec 2025 #18
I am not backing down, gab13by13 Dec 2025 #29
Investors rely on the accuracy of these numbers lame54 Dec 2025 #30
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