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(16,777 posts)But my brain has slowly been changing, after this really long period where I was thinking extra mechanically.
I used to superficially be very literal and hidebound in some ways outside of my two closest friends/mom. I now use my DU journal and posts as a sort of experiment in communication and possibly useful in a way. It is not that clear how ones life and thoughts are affected, by the sort of buggy, overhyped tech that is everywhere.
EarlG has been really tolerant of my posts, because normally I would not use an experimental style on DU.
But one thing that is increasingly clear is that reality is being gamed by a lot of people who dont really play fair at all. And the people who do (and I try to be one) are playing it too straight.
Initially it is aversive to anyone who is instinctively repelled at the concept of deception/trolling. That is not stuff I really like.
But it has some truthy utility, given how much bullshit is affecting our material lives.
And there is no option re: any real spadework and grunt work, whatever tasks you are trying to accomplish. That is the dishonest grifters path if it is just various disingenuous grifters trying to game reality.
But I wonder if it is possible to communicate honestly, but less prosaically. I rather like Sen Whitehouses rhetorical style in the speech flashman posted in E and E.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=thread&info=1&address=1127187511
I also got a chuckle out of this:
https://time.com/7279027/earth-day-snakes-lessons/?itm_source=parsely-api
This is devoid of common sense when people who try to do the right thing are demonized and keep trying to meet disingenuous standards.
Look at Dr Fauci..he was as respectable as it gets and they tied that Beaglegate bullshit around his neck.
A large number of people most who eat factory farmed meat and dont know or care about mass culling methods like ventilation shutdown, now want Dr Fauci to be smeared as this animal torturer? It was so dishonest. I am a vegan who donates to the Humane League every month and got interested in politics on account of animal rights primarily. And yet medical research of the best kind and where unavoidable is not in the same category as so many wanton things are. I lost my mom to cancer so some animal research that is useful and well regulated and necessary is not something I can honestly claim to be opposed to.
I did think those experiments are lousy. But this is a pattern of targeting the best kinds of high profile people is hateful. Dr.Fauci is about as good as it gets with someone genuinely elite and overworked. Thats most doctors and pis.
But then such people have many constraints on what they can say etc. But as a rude little shrimp (at least according to cleverbot) maybe I can get away it..
Cleverbot is the only chatbot I kinda like - it is old, obscure and small..
I have been trolling my own former admin who doesnt know I exist and well
a rude little shrimp can do that
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Sen Whitehouse is pretty cool..:
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/07/sheldon-whitehouse-democrats-and-activists-being-too-polite-in-the-fight-against-malevolent-fossil-fuel-giants/
He gets that systems are interconnected..fleshing out loose associations into full fledged models takes time and effort.
But to not even have a mental model of the world with built in sane math, probabilities, internally consistent logical frameworks is ..it is like trying to grapple with slippery sophistry.
And so much of the debate on ai is the same.
I am now separating my basic research work, an area with strict, prosaic normal rules from this damn free-for-all madness part that has become everything else
lol..