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hunter

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6. With some small effort one can usually find the source of this plagiarized material.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 02:53 PM
Yesterday

That's what I'd rather see in an excerpt box, along with a link.

These plagiarism machines work, in effect, by scraping words and images from the internet and other sources, compressing them down and mashing them together in a lossy manner until the sources are entirely obfuscated. Then according to some user prompt they expand this compressed information, stitching together all the rips and tears and filling in the holes in some plausible manner before spitting out the results. (This process uses an unconscionable amount of electricity.)

Occasionally the results go entirely sideways in a Mad Lib fashion, and those garbage results are called "hallucinations" in an effort to disguise what's really going on inside the box.

There's an easy to find video presentation by Dave Plummer, a retired Microsoft engineer, about using AI to recreate the Notepad text processing program as it was before it was re-imagined (a polite way to say ruined) in Widows 11.

It looks like magic if you don't know what's going on. (And it begs the question, why not simply use the old version of Notepad itself?)

It's not magic at all when you realize what this vibe-coding software is actually doing. It's been "trained" (another deceptive word choice) on actual text processing software, maybe even the code for the older version of Notepad itself.

It's like a kid who, instead of doing any actual research for a term paper, rewrites an encyclopedia entry "in their own words," puts a few sources that they haven't even looked at in the bibliography, and hopes the teacher won't notice.

Of course I date myself having grown up in a time where the internet wasn't open to the general public and the Encyclopedia Britannica usually had an entry about whatever topic you were assigned to write about.

This is my term paper about Liechtenstein...

These days Wikipedia serves the same purpose and the plagiarism machines which are not intelligent scrape that too.

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Absolutely! pat_k Yesterday #1
I'm glad you label it, but why bother posting what any chatbot says when it might give a different answer highplainsdem Yesterday #7
Very true. AI generated content looks and sounds authoritative, even when it's not mdbl Yesterday #10
I always question AI - ask for quotes, womanofthehills Yesterday #14
That will NOT prevent it from lying. Ms. Toad Yesterday #35
This is an AI Video... leftstreet Yesterday #2
It's still slop. It's still dumb. Our most effective weapons against Trump and his regime are real news, highplainsdem Yesterday #3
I thought the subject was labeling it leftstreet Yesterday #5
I'm glad you agree with the labeling. I thought you posted that video as something that you felt highplainsdem Yesterday #8
bwahahaha jmbar2 Yesterday #4
No way ornotna Yesterday #62
LOL. Sometimes we need to laugh at one form Ilsa 8 hrs ago #71
With some small effort one can usually find the source of this plagiarized material. hunter Yesterday #6
Ah, Liechtenstein! kurtyboy Yesterday #18
I agree, but...... SergeStorms Yesterday #9
They don't all add disclaimers, though, here on DU or on other websites - and most of the time they highplainsdem Yesterday #12
I agree SergeStorms Yesterday #34
Thanks! highplainsdem Yesterday #53
Thank you !!!! This should be a DU rule. Trueblue1968 Yesterday #11
Yes! SheltieLover Yesterday #21
If people are posting AI generated text here withour saying it's AI, I agree that it should be labeled as such. ShazzieB Yesterday #13
The AI overview is there to keep you in the google sandbox. hunter Yesterday #47
Yes, and No ThreeNoSeep Yesterday #15
Yes, they are committing fraud, i.e. plagurisim. paleotn Yesterday #25
Academic researchers use other people's work all the time. (#bibliography) ThreeNoSeep Yesterday #59
They cite other people's work. Other PEOPLE. Cite LLMs? paleotn Yesterday #60
Theft? Nope. ThreeNoSeep Yesterday #61
I'm sorry, but you're wrong. highplainsdem Yesterday #28
Where are your citations for the above? jmbar2 Yesterday #39
Citations for what's in the excerpt boxes? Those are quotes from the message I was replying to. highplainsdem Yesterday #43
They're quotes, so they need ____________________ jmbar2 Yesterday #45
Not when it's a quote from someone I'm replying to in an excerpt box in a reply following their message. highplainsdem Yesterday #49
Agree 100%. Thank you! CaptainTruth Yesterday #16
Is this a new rule or guideline? Joinfortmill Yesterday #17
If not, should be. paleotn Yesterday #22
I have no issue with this if it is a rule by the site owner Joinfortmill Yesterday #23
They're wishing, not presenting. paleotn Yesterday #26
You might want to read my post again. Joinfortmill Yesterday #27
Do they have the ability to make policy? No. Then it's just wishing. paleotn Yesterday #29
Read it. Joinfortmill Yesterday #32
It's a request, starting with the word "please" - no more a rule or guideline than the many requests highplainsdem Yesterday #33
Chill. Why the freaking anger? paleotn Yesterday #36
I'm not angry. Joinfortmill Yesterday #44
Then why is this such an issue for you? Seriously? paleotn Yesterday #56
It is the way it was presented. Joinfortmill Yesterday #57
It's a request, made because we have had chatbot responses posted here that weren't identified as highplainsdem Yesterday #31
Perfectly good reasons why we should NEVER use AI for this forum. paleotn Yesterday #19
Absolutely agreed! SheltieLover Yesterday #20
Is this like blaming someone for holding a counterfeit banknote? Drum Yesterday #24
I simply put many of these AI enthusiasts on my ignore list. hunter Yesterday #40
Agreed! Drum Yesterday #42
It's possible I decry this new industry more than highplainsdem does. hunter Yesterday #55
Amen. Wednesdays Yesterday #30
I'm here for the humans. carpetbagger Yesterday #37
LOL! I hope we all are. Heaven help this board if very much of it turns into a place to trade highplainsdem Yesterday #38
Do we need to know the political affiliation of the chatbot? MichMan Yesterday #41
And their pronouns jmbar2 Yesterday #46
This isn't in the TOS. It's a request made for the reasons explained in the OP. And identifying the chatbot helps highplainsdem Yesterday #50
I come to DU to find out what other people think. AI doesn't think. It's "artificial!" nt LAS14 Yesterday #48
Exactly. There are already too many responses from bots in a lot of other online forums. highplainsdem Yesterday #58
I ask that an AI tag be added to the subject line so those of us who find AI revolting can easily Trash it a SheltieLover Yesterday #51
I think a trigger warning might be more appropriate jmbar2 Yesterday #52
It's not a trigger for me, but AI in subject makes it easier to trash in settings. SheltieLover Yesterday #54
I'm starting to think you don't care about any other issue. FascismIsDeath 23 hrs ago #63
Really? I've posted about lots of other issues, here and on other platforms. highplainsdem 22 hrs ago #64
"AI slop" has became the equivalent of using "woke" as a pejorative. FascismIsDeath 21 hrs ago #65
You don't seem to understand that people choosing to use and promote a technology they know is unethical and highplainsdem 19 hrs ago #66
Jawohl! LPBBEAR 10 hrs ago #67
This. Martin68 10 hrs ago #68
Thank you highplainsdem. c-rational 9 hrs ago #69
About the search engine AI overviews mentioned above... FemDemERA 9 hrs ago #70
Very helpful - thanks jmbar2 7 hrs ago #72
This is the owners issue, not ours. Mosby 7 hrs ago #73
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