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In reply to the discussion: Where are the Genocide Joe protest voters? [View all]BlueTsunami2018
(4,936 posts)Or to even acknowledge that its happening at the very least, which Harris still hasnt done.
During the campaign she cited Iran as our greatest adversary, which theyre not and have never been, and would not rule out an attack on them citing her reluctance to engage in hypotheticals.
Tim Walz said the expansion of Israel and its proxies is an absolute necessity for the United States which is extremely troubling.
I dont think things would be all that much different on the Gaza situation given these conditions. Of course theyd certainly be much less straight evil and there would be a show of attempting to get ceasefire and all that but whats the difference if the results are the same? Israel was going to destroy Gaza no matter what anyone said about it. There just wouldnt be this crazy talk of building resorts and all that on the land.
On Iran, its much less likely that a Harris administration would have attacked like this. She would have had real advisers and negotiators in her camp instead of this clown show and would have tried to get an Obama style deal put back in place. Bibi wouldnt have the Epstein files to hold over her head and she couldnt be easily bribed by the Saudis.
But we also have to remember that Americas imperialist interests take precedent no matter whos in charge so who knows for sure?
Everyone complains that the left wont vote for Democrats but they never give the left any reason to. Theyre always too busy trying to collect disaffected Republicans instead of people who should be their natural allies. And its pretty clear why. Democrats are still capitalists, they still somehow believe that this system can be managed though reform and regulation which it very obviously cannot. Not really.
I, being a practical leftist, voted for Harris for damage reduction. I always vote Democratic for that reason. Unfortunately, we have a binary system so theyre the only game in town if you at least want some bones and scraps thrown your way. Of course I recognized what it meant if these open fascists won. But I understand why others who are just sick of this whole good cop bad cop one step forward, two steps back shit weve been doing for fifty years and losing ground to the owners all the time wouldnt.
People want real, meaningful change and only the far right ever delivers on that, much to the detriment of everyone.
If they want votes they have to earn them. Simply not being as bad as the other guys doesnt cut it with everyone. Give the left a reason to vote for you. Even if its just one thing at a time. We have to stop letting the moneyed interests, the tiniest minority in the country, decide everything.