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flashman13

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13. There is a real problem here. The Iranians are not going to let Trump off his petard without concessions.

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Tue Mar 31, 2026, 11:18 AM

Mar 31

They can manage with the Straits closed way better than the rest of the world. At a minimum they will demand reparations and that the destroyed U.S. bases on the Gulf will not be rebuilt (most of the host countries probably won't allow rebuilding anyway). They will also want some guarantee that this attack won't be repeated, but I have no idea how that could be structured.

Way back when this war started, I said it would end with Trump's total humiliation. Personally I would like to see Trump be forced to apologize to the world, possibly at the U.N., for starting this shit show.

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Matt Stollar:And just like that, Trump acknowledges the obvious - the U.S. lost and Iran now has hegemony [View all] Passages Mar 31 OP

Rubio admitted as much a few days ago IbogaProject Mar 31 #1

The war that isn't Whip-poor-will Mar 31 #2

your Freudian slip NJCher Mar 31 #19

Or maybe someone convinced him that by retreating, Hormuz will be opened. Baitball Blogger Mar 31 #3

What removes him from office? maxsolomon Mar 31 #21

Think about it. Baitball Blogger Mar 31 #25

I'm thinking about it. maxsolomon Mar 31 #27

Yup, the super wealthy gop donors are being impacted by the antics of the stooge they put in office. mwmisses4289 Mar 31 #30

Even a blind sow picks up and acorn once in a while. multigraincracker Mar 31 #4

That's what he said yesterday AverageOldGuy Mar 31 #5

THIS orangecrush Mar 31 #10

Exactly. To pump the market up. GoodRaisin Mar 31 #17

It's what reactionary's do. CrispyQ Mar 31 #18

He'll try and spin it as a victory. Don't know how he will do that, but he'll try. And some of the hard core MAGA and Fil1957 Mar 31 #6

I know how he'll do it. He'll do what he always does: LIE. And repeat his lies, over and over and over. MLWR Mar 31 #7

The same way he does everything else. Declare it loudly EdmondDantes_ Mar 31 #8

The destruction of the AWAC was pretty stunning wolfie001 Mar 31 #9

The Iranians were very deliberate in their conduct of the war Bluetus Mar 31 #24

Isn't it just us? odins folly Mar 31 #11

Now we can buy oil from Russia ... wasn't that the whole point of this exercise? FakeNoose Mar 31 #14

$2M per ship. That's Iran's going rate to transit Hormuz paleotn Mar 31 #15

Got it odins folly Mar 31 #23

I wouldn't say hegemony..,,, paleotn Mar 31 #12

There is a real problem here. The Iranians are not going to let Trump off his petard without concessions. flashman13 Mar 31 #13

Got us by the short hairs paleotn Mar 31 #16

That's not the only thing they have got us by. flashman13 Mar 31 #20

A broken clock MW67 Mar 31 #22

He's a pestilence upon the earth. Joinfortmill Mar 31 #26

As others have said, it's really two wars WestMichRad Mar 31 #28

The Phony War bucolic_frolic Mar 31 #29

When we get together with friends the topic of undoing this mess always comes up. Passages Mar 31 #34

If this were a true statement, then why . . . peggysue2 Mar 31 #31

I want all of them prosecuted too. I'm not the biggest fan of The Atlantic, yet this Passages Mar 31 #33

I wish the characters that these people portrayed in the movie were here now Wonder Why Mar 31 #32