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RandomNumbers

(19,187 posts)
30. I'm on the fence too
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 12:39 PM
21 hrs ago

but there seems to be some 'there' there in that article (sorry you can't get to it).

I sort of doubt that they would even be able to make credible allegations except that the circumstances they describe would be deemed likely by people who know Swalwell. That is, the heavy drinking aspect.

Even if he isn't guilty of the sexual allegations: if he's doing a lot of heavy drinking with staffers ... or hanging out with staffers and allowing them to drink heavily and not seeing to it that they get safely home ... to me that's bad enough for me to scratch him off my list of any politician I want to see promoted. Just really bad self management and bad way to interact with staff. And if he isn't the kind of guy who puts himself in those positions - where are his supporters and other staffers loudly proclaiming, hey this has to be a lie, he just doesn't behave like that at all?
Yet instead, some staffers decided to resign. Perhaps they have 'experiences' also and just want out, without coming forward into the limelight.

Yeah I want to see people who should know, loudly calling 'RUBBISH, that's not him'.

But I don't want to see him give up his Congressional seat until we can replace him, and also not until the investigation plays out a little more.

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I may get banned for this, but [View all] grumpyduck 22 hrs ago OP
I'm not saying he is innocent, but I do believe the timing stinks of rat fuckery. SheltieLover 22 hrs ago #1
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave 22 hrs ago #3
I was with you until I saw 'FOUR WOMEN' RandomNumbers 22 hrs ago #7
Has anyone credible asked them why they waited until now? SheltieLover 22 hrs ago #9
Victims in cases like these will often come forward when they see that someone they know as a predator or pest is about WhiskeyGrinder 22 hrs ago #24
Scattered throughout the CNN article, which is long RandomNumbers 22 hrs ago #27
That is, indeed, a commonality among sexual assault survivors, but I'm still reserving judgment. SheltieLover 22 hrs ago #28
Good point and I mostly agree with you. Time should tell. RandomNumbers 21 hrs ago #35
And, at least, the alleged victims were not children! SheltieLover 20 hrs ago #67
I agree with you. I think everyone involved .. Women, men, witnesses should take a polygraph. Trueblue1968 19 hrs ago #92
Because Swallwell has been outspoken about kraznov. SheltieLover 19 hrs ago #93
I have been thinking of polygraphs as a complainant myself jfz9580m 12 hrs ago #131
an ABSOLUTELY common dynamic in sexual assault .. - - - - - - - - - - -(nt)- stopdiggin 21 hrs ago #32
Maybe he's skilled at gaslighting wolfie001 20 hrs ago #70
"why did you wait ?" is an age old question that has an unfortunate history of being weaponized .... stopdiggin 21 hrs ago #31
Here are some resources on why many victims don't come forward EdmondDantes_ 21 hrs ago #34
Fun fact: It was George Conway (the former Mr. Kellyanne Conway) who told E. Jean Carroll to file a suit against T💩p. OMGWTF 21 hrs ago #40
I didn't know that. EdmondDantes_ 21 hrs ago #41
Politico says they've seen a written confidentiality and non-disparagement agreement muriel_volestrangler 21 hrs ago #50
If it was pukes, not fooled 20 hrs ago #65
You must be male..... Biglinda 52 20 hrs ago #78
I am not male & am a strong feminist with a strong bs sniffer & this stinks! SheltieLover 20 hrs ago #79
My beloved lover of Shelties... mr715 19 hrs ago #90
Most of the bottom tier Dems in the race should've pulled out, imo &, in fact that they didn't makes me wonder how many SheltieLover 19 hrs ago #94
Exactly, and right through the whole "Me Too!" movement. pandr32 17 hrs ago #113
But four women all now? hamsterjill 22 hrs ago #22
I don't know either, Jill, but phone numbers can be spoofed and we know ruskies are great at hacking... SheltieLover 22 hrs ago #26
Agreed, Sheltie. hamsterjill 19 hrs ago #97
I'm on the fence too RandomNumbers 21 hrs ago #30
The unfortunate thing is that he'll already be cancelled. hamsterjill 18 hrs ago #98
I have no idea soldierant 13 hrs ago #128
Please don't. hamsterjill 11 hrs ago #132
Not underage perhaps, but unable to consent, and on the lower end of the power dynamic RandomNumbers 12 min ago #139
California's jungle primary is weird. DemocratSinceBirth 21 hrs ago #45
You get it FHRRK1 16 hrs ago #118
D versus R we win. D versus D we win. DemocratSinceBirth 16 hrs ago #121
I remember several women coming forward after Tara Reade. pandr32 20 hrs ago #85
This message was self-deleted by its author usedtobedemgurl 18 hrs ago #103
Dangle $1 million each SonOfNebanaube 18 hrs ago #102
I was skeptical about one accuser, as she had a continuing relationship, but with four accusers? Nah, bye Eric Pompoy 8 hrs ago #136
Why? Having Swalwell drop out now helps Democrats. yardwork 22 hrs ago #11
That's the problem with CA's jungle primary DemocratSinceBirth 21 hrs ago #49
Someone will. That's a certainty. paleotn 20 hrs ago #61
Swalwell is finished. DemocratSinceBirth 20 hrs ago #68
Yes, he is finished. But that's not the end of the world. paleotn 20 hrs ago #71
Four accusers whose accounts have been corroborated DemocratSinceBirth 20 hrs ago #75
Putting on a Pedestal Is One Thing WizumbODaSage 19 hrs ago #88
So Do I WiVoter 22 hrs ago #15
It was self sabotage Fiendish Thingy 22 hrs ago #2
Sometimes Democrats need math lessons OR, they need to think of the party before themselves. LeftInTX 15 hrs ago #123
Reason No. I-Lost-Count why victims don't speak out: They're seen as saboteurs. WhiskeyGrinder 22 hrs ago #4
These threads.... smh. yardwork 22 hrs ago #12
It's sad that we're still doing this EdmondDantes_ 22 hrs ago #13
He can still run. As a Republican n/t leftstreet 22 hrs ago #5
If he could up his numbers to double digits he could be a GOP presidential nominee in 2028. Vinca 22 hrs ago #16
Post removed Post removed 22 hrs ago #6
Speaking of banning... EYESORE 9001 22 hrs ago #19
Darn!!! Did I just miss a visit from our resident troll??? niyad 21 hrs ago #37
How INTERESTING......... some_of_us_are_sane 22 hrs ago #20
Hmmmmm, one of our resident trolls, perhaps? And I missed them! niyad 21 hrs ago #39
Yes, the library must be closed today. Spazito 21 hrs ago #44
LOL!! some_of_us_are_sane 20 hrs ago #74
Probably niyad some_of_us_are_sane 20 hrs ago #69
Definitely not her first post BumRushDaShow 21 hrs ago #60
That doesn't really make sense, though. yardwork 22 hrs ago #8
This +1 Emile 22 hrs ago #14
https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/primary-elections-california mikewv 22 hrs ago #21
Yep Lifeafter70 17 hrs ago #110
Yes, this is a good point. True Dough 22 hrs ago #23
Ah but this is why it is such a cunning plot. Disaffected 21 hrs ago #36
And.....? yardwork 21 hrs ago #53
How many of those Dems have been as vocal as Swalwell against Piggy? MorbidButterflyTat 21 hrs ago #51
It's not a democratic primary, it's a " jungle " primary questionseverything 21 hrs ago #55
so all these former Democratic staffers - have reemerged as Republican operatives .. ? stopdiggin 22 hrs ago #10
You are 100% correct ABC123Easy 22 hrs ago #17
It's a lot better for these accusations to have come out now, LisaL 22 hrs ago #18
I am a Katie Porter fan myself! BlueMTexpat 22 hrs ago #25
It wouldn't surprise me if it came from a Democrat. Renew Deal 22 hrs ago #29
I have to agree, so much infighting. 😔 nt Raine 13 hrs ago #129
Roger Stone did it to Al Franken. The Wizard 21 hrs ago #33
Took 3 weeks and 6 additional women accusing Franken before the calls to resign EdmondDantes_ 21 hrs ago #38
in Franken's case, Stone definitely got the ball rolling but yes, Franken chose to resign. He wasn't forced out. LymphocyteLover 21 hrs ago #43
I don't think so. Think of it as a blessing this came out now and not further down the road. LymphocyteLover 21 hrs ago #42
Agree mikewv 21 hrs ago #47
I sure hope so! LymphocyteLover 16 hrs ago #122
Absolutely. MorbidButterflyTat 21 hrs ago #46
Tee yourself up and guess what happens? FiveFifteen 21 hrs ago #48
Sigh. So, we're still not believing the women. Political party doesn't matter, it's all about not believing the women. mucholderthandirt 21 hrs ago #52
So we should hang a man before we have any evidence? Autumn 17 hrs ago #108
100% this obamanut2012 21 hrs ago #54
Why are these allegations only surfacing now? dlk 21 hrs ago #56
Did you doubt E Jean Carroll or Christine Blasey Ford? EdmondDantes_ 20 hrs ago #64
Apparently you missed the line in my post, "Women should be believed" dlk 17 hrs ago #111
One of the incidents was in 2024. And it often happens that after some woman finally comes forward, pnwmom 5 hrs ago #138
Has Eric responded? GreenWave 21 hrs ago #57
He did apologize to his wife for "past errors" whatever that means. Otherwise it was a denial. 33taw 20 hrs ago #73
It means he had lots of extramarital sex. mr715 9 hrs ago #133
Simply stating what he said. I don't have enough info to have an opinion. 33taw 9 hrs ago #134
Conspiracy theories always going to happen. Jacson6 21 hrs ago #58
Better chance? How about just slightly above zero chance. paleotn 21 hrs ago #59
See if there is some outfit that is bankrolling them. valleyrogue 20 hrs ago #62
This perspective is bullshit. hunter 20 hrs ago #63
And these are very serious allegations jfz9580m 16 hrs ago #120
I agree. Remember Joe Biden. Let's get to the truth. Joinfortmill 20 hrs ago #66
It's the double standard Ibapah 20 hrs ago #72
Where is Roger stone in this? UpInArms 20 hrs ago #76
I thought you were going to say how our supposed ally, Israel, is really screwing the USA over and over. My mistake. nt Exp 20 hrs ago #77
We should know our candidates better. When they tell you who they are the first time believe them. Walleye 20 hrs ago #80
"repugs are playing chess while the Democrats are playing checkers." J_William_Ryan 20 hrs ago #81
I read the San Francisco Chronicle article this morning. cksmithy 20 hrs ago #82
He deserves the same hearing as the Dem refused Franken RVN VET71 20 hrs ago #83
Actually that is not likely to be true karynnj 20 hrs ago #84
Didn't 16 or 17 women accuse TrumpenFuhrer of the same thing and REPUBLICANS DIDNT CARE??? NoMoreRepugs 20 hrs ago #86
I think the number was higher than that MustLoveBeagles 9 hrs ago #135
Yes, if Swalwell is responsible for sexual assault, he needs be held to account Grim Chieftain 20 hrs ago #87
They did this to Al Franklin too (nt) Pluvious 19 hrs ago #89
If he didn't do anything wrong IMO he should stay in the gov race and immediately file a lawsuit in2herbs 19 hrs ago #91
No mater what, the timing is sus SpankMe 19 hrs ago #95
it doesn't "prove that men are scum" Skittles 18 hrs ago #100
Maybe a good time for this RoseTrellis 19 hrs ago #96
I don't think so... WarGamer 18 hrs ago #99
Why isn't abuse believed pattyloutwo 18 hrs ago #101
Exactly, this is a hit job. Initech 18 hrs ago #104
The reactions here spotlight the hypocrisy of the republicans liberal N proud 18 hrs ago #105
No matter what he is guilty of making bad decisions!!! Pisces 18 hrs ago #106
I'm a California voter... GJGCA 18 hrs ago #107
I love the quote, ""Love is not love / Which alters when it alteration finds / Or bends with the remover to remove." Martin68 17 hrs ago #109
Epanalepsis, on the other hand... GJGCA 17 hrs ago #112
they are at war, we are playing by the rules. pansypoo53219 16 hrs ago #114
They have abandoned the rules especially the rule of law. live love laugh 16 hrs ago #117
full scale cheating for sure. pansypoo53219 12 hrs ago #130
Swalwell"s Staff Has Thrown Him Under the Bus Locutusofborg 16 hrs ago #115
Who always benefits from these things? That's where the focus should also be. live love laugh 16 hrs ago #116
This news about Swalwell sucks.... but IcyPeas 16 hrs ago #119
Face the facts.. raising2moredems 14 hrs ago #124
I think the difference is that the republicans support the nastiest, hidden elements of the government. They are the LT Barclay 14 hrs ago #125
I hear roger stone was in on this Clouds Passing 14 hrs ago #126
Until there is proof of misconduct he should not step down. If kacekwl 14 hrs ago #127
So Katie Porter isn't electable because she used a swear word, but we're supposed pnwmom 5 hrs ago #137
I don't know. There's a lot of Democrats running which is being reported splits the vote and allowing the 2 Rs to Jbraybarten 2 min ago #140
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