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pandr32

(14,307 posts)
85. I remember several women coming forward after Tara Reade.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 02:15 PM
19 hrs ago

Al Franken was blindsided. The first accusation wasn't a slam dunk so suddenly there were others with stories. "He made me uncomfortable" "he grabbed my butt" he this--he that, etc. Like Al, Eric has mingled with lots of people. He has been there the whole time and now suddenly the faucet opens and a stream of allegations are flowing out.
Yes, it stinks, and Roger Stone is in the mix.
Where are all those Al Franken sexual harassment people now? Did they shrink back into the woodwork?
The details of the first complaint against Eric is the one being bolstered by a stream of "he sent me inappropriate photos" etc.
The first complaint really needs a good look.The collaborator is an ex-boyfriend who has claimed she told him several years ago, and she had a pregnancy test, etc. Did she? Also, if she did what does it prove about her allegations? Did she file a report? No. She worked with him for several more years. Also, the assumption that something had happened because of how she felt the next morning is interesting. After the first time why would she allow it again? If "she was intimidated by his power" then what changed? Enter Roger Stone and all the dirty tricks he is known for along with his buddy Steve Bannon.
We need to consider that this is a dirty trick op. Not only would it end Eric Swalwell's run for governor of one of our most important and financially stable states, but it would knock him off the Judiciary Committee and other caucuses. He has been a strong and reliable steward for justice and democracy. He is a skilled lawyer and his track record until now has been stellar and effective. He has been a voice for releasing the Epstein files and for supporting the victims of Trump and Epstein as well as others. Of course he is on Trump's regime's hit list. He started a war as a distraction for fux sake and is a menace to the whole world.
Our stance should be to give him our support because he has had our back.
We should insist the accusers file appropriate charges and/or provide evidence, and we need to stop clutching pearls.
Meanwhile, if no certifiable pictures and evidence not AI'd we should back our candidate.
This isn't about not believing women. This is about knowing that people can be persuaded or intimidated. Eric might not be the one using those tools.
Eric Swalwell believes in law and justice. We should let it play out and if he is ever found guilty of an offence he would be replaceable then. Meanwhile let him do his jobs.

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I may get banned for this, but [View all] grumpyduck 21 hrs ago OP
I'm not saying he is innocent, but I do believe the timing stinks of rat fuckery. SheltieLover 21 hrs ago #1
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave 21 hrs ago #3
I was with you until I saw 'FOUR WOMEN' RandomNumbers 20 hrs ago #7
Has anyone credible asked them why they waited until now? SheltieLover 20 hrs ago #9
Victims in cases like these will often come forward when they see that someone they know as a predator or pest is about WhiskeyGrinder 20 hrs ago #24
Scattered throughout the CNN article, which is long RandomNumbers 20 hrs ago #27
That is, indeed, a commonality among sexual assault survivors, but I'm still reserving judgment. SheltieLover 20 hrs ago #28
Good point and I mostly agree with you. Time should tell. RandomNumbers 20 hrs ago #35
And, at least, the alleged victims were not children! SheltieLover 19 hrs ago #67
I agree with you. I think everyone involved .. Women, men, witnesses should take a polygraph. Trueblue1968 18 hrs ago #92
Because Swallwell has been outspoken about kraznov. SheltieLover 18 hrs ago #93
I have been thinking of polygraphs as a complainant myself jfz9580m 11 hrs ago #131
an ABSOLUTELY common dynamic in sexual assault .. - - - - - - - - - - -(nt)- stopdiggin 20 hrs ago #32
Maybe he's skilled at gaslighting wolfie001 19 hrs ago #70
"why did you wait ?" is an age old question that has an unfortunate history of being weaponized .... stopdiggin 20 hrs ago #31
Here are some resources on why many victims don't come forward EdmondDantes_ 20 hrs ago #34
Fun fact: It was George Conway (the former Mr. Kellyanne Conway) who told E. Jean Carroll to file a suit against T💩p. OMGWTF 20 hrs ago #40
I didn't know that. EdmondDantes_ 20 hrs ago #41
Politico says they've seen a written confidentiality and non-disparagement agreement muriel_volestrangler 19 hrs ago #50
If it was pukes, not fooled 19 hrs ago #65
You must be male..... Biglinda 52 19 hrs ago #78
I am not male & am a strong feminist with a strong bs sniffer & this stinks! SheltieLover 19 hrs ago #79
My beloved lover of Shelties... mr715 18 hrs ago #90
Most of the bottom tier Dems in the race should've pulled out, imo &, in fact that they didn't makes me wonder how many SheltieLover 18 hrs ago #94
Exactly, and right through the whole "Me Too!" movement. pandr32 15 hrs ago #113
But four women all now? hamsterjill 20 hrs ago #22
I don't know either, Jill, but phone numbers can be spoofed and we know ruskies are great at hacking... SheltieLover 20 hrs ago #26
Agreed, Sheltie. hamsterjill 17 hrs ago #97
I'm on the fence too RandomNumbers 20 hrs ago #30
The unfortunate thing is that he'll already be cancelled. hamsterjill 17 hrs ago #98
I have no idea soldierant 12 hrs ago #128
Please don't. hamsterjill 10 hrs ago #132
California's jungle primary is weird. DemocratSinceBirth 20 hrs ago #45
You get it FHRRK1 15 hrs ago #118
D versus R we win. D versus D we win. DemocratSinceBirth 14 hrs ago #121
I remember several women coming forward after Tara Reade. pandr32 19 hrs ago #85
This message was self-deleted by its author usedtobedemgurl 17 hrs ago #103
Dangle $1 million each SonOfNebanaube 17 hrs ago #102
I was skeptical about one accuser, as she had a continuing relationship, but with four accusers? Nah, bye Eric Pompoy 7 hrs ago #136
Why? Having Swalwell drop out now helps Democrats. yardwork 20 hrs ago #11
That's the problem with CA's jungle primary DemocratSinceBirth 19 hrs ago #49
Someone will. That's a certainty. paleotn 19 hrs ago #61
Swalwell is finished. DemocratSinceBirth 19 hrs ago #68
Yes, he is finished. But that's not the end of the world. paleotn 19 hrs ago #71
Four accusers whose accounts have been corroborated DemocratSinceBirth 19 hrs ago #75
Putting on a Pedestal Is One Thing WizumbODaSage 18 hrs ago #88
So Do I WiVoter 20 hrs ago #15
It was self sabotage Fiendish Thingy 21 hrs ago #2
Sometimes Democrats need math lessons OR, they need to think of the party before themselves. LeftInTX 14 hrs ago #123
Reason No. I-Lost-Count why victims don't speak out: They're seen as saboteurs. WhiskeyGrinder 21 hrs ago #4
These threads.... smh. yardwork 20 hrs ago #12
It's sad that we're still doing this EdmondDantes_ 20 hrs ago #13
He can still run. As a Republican n/t leftstreet 21 hrs ago #5
If he could up his numbers to double digits he could be a GOP presidential nominee in 2028. Vinca 20 hrs ago #16
Post removed Post removed 20 hrs ago #6
Speaking of banning... EYESORE 9001 20 hrs ago #19
Darn!!! Did I just miss a visit from our resident troll??? niyad 20 hrs ago #37
How INTERESTING......... some_of_us_are_sane 20 hrs ago #20
Hmmmmm, one of our resident trolls, perhaps? And I missed them! niyad 20 hrs ago #39
Yes, the library must be closed today. Spazito 20 hrs ago #44
LOL!! some_of_us_are_sane 19 hrs ago #74
Probably niyad some_of_us_are_sane 19 hrs ago #69
Definitely not her first post BumRushDaShow 19 hrs ago #60
That doesn't really make sense, though. yardwork 20 hrs ago #8
This +1 Emile 20 hrs ago #14
https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/primary-elections-california mikewv 20 hrs ago #21
Yep Lifeafter70 16 hrs ago #110
Yes, this is a good point. True Dough 20 hrs ago #23
Ah but this is why it is such a cunning plot. Disaffected 20 hrs ago #36
And.....? yardwork 19 hrs ago #53
How many of those Dems have been as vocal as Swalwell against Piggy? MorbidButterflyTat 19 hrs ago #51
It's not a democratic primary, it's a " jungle " primary questionseverything 19 hrs ago #55
so all these former Democratic staffers - have reemerged as Republican operatives .. ? stopdiggin 20 hrs ago #10
You are 100% correct ABC123Easy 20 hrs ago #17
It's a lot better for these accusations to have come out now, LisaL 20 hrs ago #18
I am a Katie Porter fan myself! BlueMTexpat 20 hrs ago #25
It wouldn't surprise me if it came from a Democrat. Renew Deal 20 hrs ago #29
I have to agree, so much infighting. 😔 nt Raine 12 hrs ago #129
Roger Stone did it to Al Franken. The Wizard 20 hrs ago #33
Took 3 weeks and 6 additional women accusing Franken before the calls to resign EdmondDantes_ 20 hrs ago #38
in Franken's case, Stone definitely got the ball rolling but yes, Franken chose to resign. He wasn't forced out. LymphocyteLover 20 hrs ago #43
I don't think so. Think of it as a blessing this came out now and not further down the road. LymphocyteLover 20 hrs ago #42
Agree mikewv 20 hrs ago #47
I sure hope so! LymphocyteLover 14 hrs ago #122
Absolutely. MorbidButterflyTat 20 hrs ago #46
Tee yourself up and guess what happens? FiveFifteen 20 hrs ago #48
Sigh. So, we're still not believing the women. Political party doesn't matter, it's all about not believing the women. mucholderthandirt 19 hrs ago #52
So we should hang a man before we have any evidence? Autumn 16 hrs ago #108
100% this obamanut2012 19 hrs ago #54
Why are these allegations only surfacing now? dlk 19 hrs ago #56
Did you doubt E Jean Carroll or Christine Blasey Ford? EdmondDantes_ 19 hrs ago #64
Apparently you missed the line in my post, "Women should be believed" dlk 15 hrs ago #111
One of the incidents was in 2024. And it often happens that after some woman finally comes forward, pnwmom 4 hrs ago #138
Has Eric responded? GreenWave 19 hrs ago #57
He did apologize to his wife for "past errors" whatever that means. Otherwise it was a denial. 33taw 19 hrs ago #73
It means he had lots of extramarital sex. mr715 8 hrs ago #133
Simply stating what he said. I don't have enough info to have an opinion. 33taw 8 hrs ago #134
Conspiracy theories always going to happen. Jacson6 19 hrs ago #58
Better chance? How about just slightly above zero chance. paleotn 19 hrs ago #59
See if there is some outfit that is bankrolling them. valleyrogue 19 hrs ago #62
This perspective is bullshit. hunter 19 hrs ago #63
And these are very serious allegations jfz9580m 14 hrs ago #120
I agree. Remember Joe Biden. Let's get to the truth. Joinfortmill 19 hrs ago #66
It's the double standard Ibapah 19 hrs ago #72
Where is Roger stone in this? UpInArms 19 hrs ago #76
I thought you were going to say how our supposed ally, Israel, is really screwing the USA over and over. My mistake. nt Exp 19 hrs ago #77
We should know our candidates better. When they tell you who they are the first time believe them. Walleye 19 hrs ago #80
"repugs are playing chess while the Democrats are playing checkers." J_William_Ryan 19 hrs ago #81
I read the San Francisco Chronicle article this morning. cksmithy 19 hrs ago #82
He deserves the same hearing as the Dem refused Franken RVN VET71 19 hrs ago #83
Actually that is not likely to be true karynnj 19 hrs ago #84
Didn't 16 or 17 women accuse TrumpenFuhrer of the same thing and REPUBLICANS DIDNT CARE??? NoMoreRepugs 18 hrs ago #86
I think the number was higher than that MustLoveBeagles 8 hrs ago #135
Yes, if Swalwell is responsible for sexual assault, he needs be held to account Grim Chieftain 18 hrs ago #87
They did this to Al Franklin too (nt) Pluvious 18 hrs ago #89
If he didn't do anything wrong IMO he should stay in the gov race and immediately file a lawsuit in2herbs 18 hrs ago #91
No mater what, the timing is sus SpankMe 18 hrs ago #95
it doesn't "prove that men are scum" Skittles 17 hrs ago #100
Maybe a good time for this RoseTrellis 17 hrs ago #96
I don't think so... WarGamer 17 hrs ago #99
Why isn't abuse believed pattyloutwo 17 hrs ago #101
Exactly, this is a hit job. Initech 16 hrs ago #104
The reactions here spotlight the hypocrisy of the republicans liberal N proud 16 hrs ago #105
No matter what he is guilty of making bad decisions!!! Pisces 16 hrs ago #106
I'm a California voter... GJGCA 16 hrs ago #107
I love the quote, ""Love is not love / Which alters when it alteration finds / Or bends with the remover to remove." Martin68 16 hrs ago #109
Epanalepsis, on the other hand... GJGCA 15 hrs ago #112
they are at war, we are playing by the rules. pansypoo53219 15 hrs ago #114
They have abandoned the rules especially the rule of law. live love laugh 15 hrs ago #117
full scale cheating for sure. pansypoo53219 11 hrs ago #130
Swalwell"s Staff Has Thrown Him Under the Bus Locutusofborg 15 hrs ago #115
Who always benefits from these things? That's where the focus should also be. live love laugh 15 hrs ago #116
This news about Swalwell sucks.... but IcyPeas 15 hrs ago #119
Face the facts.. raising2moredems 13 hrs ago #124
I think the difference is that the republicans support the nastiest, hidden elements of the government. They are the LT Barclay 13 hrs ago #125
I hear roger stone was in on this Clouds Passing 12 hrs ago #126
Until there is proof of misconduct he should not step down. If kacekwl 12 hrs ago #127
So Katie Porter isn't electable because she used a swear word, but we're supposed pnwmom 4 hrs ago #137
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