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jfz9580m

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120. And these are very serious allegations
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 06:20 PM
14 hrs ago

It sounds like roofies in a few instances. And totally creepy and unprofessional behaviour overall.
I don’t think the Al Franken allegations were anything like this (though I did not follow them much as I was pretty tuned out at that time). Hell, I don’t think the Weiner allegations were this bad. This is rape ffs.

Women’s rights have been taking a steady beating in the last 6-7 years with the overturn of Roe v Wade, the disproportionate impact of covid on women’s livelihoods, the rise of a tacitly anti-equality strain of thought (a ghastly oped by someone called Ben Wray in the Jacobin struck me in particular). Women make up a significant portion of the dem base given that if you care about the environment, science or women’s rights at all, the U.S. is pretty much a one-party country.
There is the rare GOP candidate who may even spout some economic populism, but never support for women’s rights.

These allegations are about as serious as they get and it is up to four women:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/eric-swalwell-sexual-assault-allegations_n_69d97452e4b0ccb589ece93b?origin=article-related-nonlife

The former staffer provided detailed accounts of her allegations against Swalwell, telling the Chronicle that in 2019, she blacked out after the lawmaker invited her out for drinks.
On another alleged occasion, the staffer says Swalwell tried to kiss her when she was driving him home from a meeting.

In 2024, after she was no longer working for Swalwell, the staffer says she encountered him at a charity gala and that he forced himself on her when she was drunk. In texts to a friend after the alleged incident, which were reviewed by the Chronicle, Swalwell’s accuser said she “woke up once during it and even told him to stop at one point.”

Another woman told the network that she found herself intoxicated in Swalwell’s hotel room with little memory of the evening. She said the lawmaker had nonconsensually kissed her and touched her leg in a bar earlier that night.

A different woman reported a very similar experience, saying she had connected with Swalwell on Instagram in 2025 and that he sent her his phone number. She said she later met with him in person and that he touched her leg and kissed her nonconsensually and ordered her a drink. She says she later found herself in his hotel room with no memory of how she got there, and that what happened in the room is “a blur.”


I back due process obviously. But we comment all the time on stories before a full Merrick Garland style investigation is complete and these are allegations that many if not most women would recognize a familiar creepy pattern in.
I support these women as they will attacked by jerks and creeps. “Why was she so drunk?”, “why didn’t she do this or that?”

It is often a very confusing headspace women forced into creepy situations deal with as experienced professionals in these areas know.

I have been posting about the worst allegation I have seen so far against Trump-the 13 year old he tried to force into grotesque crap and then physically abused as well.

And this is no different. No woman should have to put up with shit like this.

13-Year-Old Trump Accuser Has Key Details of Her Story Verified
The story appeared in an FBI interview in the Epstein files.


https://newrepublic.com/post/207439/department-justice-posts-fbi-interviews-donald-trump-accuser-epstein

The Justice Department released FBI interviews with a woman who accused Donald Trump of beating her after he sexually assaulted her when she was a child.

The interviews took place between August and October 2019. The woman, according to her testimony, was abused by Jeffrey Epstein for years. Her name is redacted across three separate files, but her allegation against the president is clear: Trump punched her on the side of her head after she bit his penis. She was between 13 and 15 years old at the time, she told investigators, when Epstein brought her to a “very tall building with huge rooms” in either New York or New Jersey. That’s where the prolific sex trafficker introduced her to Trump, she recalled.

Trump “didn’t like that I was a boy-girl,” the woman told investigators, referencing a tomboy.

The woman claimed that she bit Trump’s penis at the time “because he disgusted her.”

“He had money, it reeked off of him,” she said.

She noted that Trump appeared jealous of Epstein, though at some point “they ended up on level playing fields.” She recalled that Trump and Epstein would sometimes use the terms “fresh meat,” “untainted,” and “not jaded” when referring to girls.

She told investigators she had two additional interactions with Trump but did not linger on the topic.

The woman claimed Epstein’s associates harassed her for years after the abuse ended, sending her numerous death threats. In one instance, she and her mother were run off a road while driving, forcing her to remain silent.

Trump is mentioned more than 38,000 times in the Epstein files, according to a New York Times review of the DOJ’s February document dump, which consisted of some three million previously unseen pages. All in all, Trump was flagged in more than 5,300 files in the document cache, according to the Times.


This stuff is all outrageous and the status of women and children in all these societies is deteriorating fast. Not to mention every other bloody thing that matters..
So sick of this shit..

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I may get banned for this, but [View all] grumpyduck 21 hrs ago OP
I'm not saying he is innocent, but I do believe the timing stinks of rat fuckery. SheltieLover 21 hrs ago #1
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave 21 hrs ago #3
I was with you until I saw 'FOUR WOMEN' RandomNumbers 20 hrs ago #7
Has anyone credible asked them why they waited until now? SheltieLover 20 hrs ago #9
Victims in cases like these will often come forward when they see that someone they know as a predator or pest is about WhiskeyGrinder 20 hrs ago #24
Scattered throughout the CNN article, which is long RandomNumbers 20 hrs ago #27
That is, indeed, a commonality among sexual assault survivors, but I'm still reserving judgment. SheltieLover 20 hrs ago #28
Good point and I mostly agree with you. Time should tell. RandomNumbers 20 hrs ago #35
And, at least, the alleged victims were not children! SheltieLover 19 hrs ago #67
I agree with you. I think everyone involved .. Women, men, witnesses should take a polygraph. Trueblue1968 18 hrs ago #92
Because Swallwell has been outspoken about kraznov. SheltieLover 18 hrs ago #93
I have been thinking of polygraphs as a complainant myself jfz9580m 11 hrs ago #131
an ABSOLUTELY common dynamic in sexual assault .. - - - - - - - - - - -(nt)- stopdiggin 20 hrs ago #32
Maybe he's skilled at gaslighting wolfie001 19 hrs ago #70
"why did you wait ?" is an age old question that has an unfortunate history of being weaponized .... stopdiggin 20 hrs ago #31
Here are some resources on why many victims don't come forward EdmondDantes_ 20 hrs ago #34
Fun fact: It was George Conway (the former Mr. Kellyanne Conway) who told E. Jean Carroll to file a suit against T💩p. OMGWTF 20 hrs ago #40
I didn't know that. EdmondDantes_ 20 hrs ago #41
Politico says they've seen a written confidentiality and non-disparagement agreement muriel_volestrangler 19 hrs ago #50
If it was pukes, not fooled 19 hrs ago #65
You must be male..... Biglinda 52 19 hrs ago #78
I am not male & am a strong feminist with a strong bs sniffer & this stinks! SheltieLover 19 hrs ago #79
My beloved lover of Shelties... mr715 18 hrs ago #90
Most of the bottom tier Dems in the race should've pulled out, imo &, in fact that they didn't makes me wonder how many SheltieLover 18 hrs ago #94
Exactly, and right through the whole "Me Too!" movement. pandr32 15 hrs ago #113
But four women all now? hamsterjill 20 hrs ago #22
I don't know either, Jill, but phone numbers can be spoofed and we know ruskies are great at hacking... SheltieLover 20 hrs ago #26
Agreed, Sheltie. hamsterjill 17 hrs ago #97
I'm on the fence too RandomNumbers 20 hrs ago #30
The unfortunate thing is that he'll already be cancelled. hamsterjill 17 hrs ago #98
I have no idea soldierant 12 hrs ago #128
Please don't. hamsterjill 10 hrs ago #132
California's jungle primary is weird. DemocratSinceBirth 20 hrs ago #45
You get it FHRRK1 15 hrs ago #118
D versus R we win. D versus D we win. DemocratSinceBirth 14 hrs ago #121
I remember several women coming forward after Tara Reade. pandr32 19 hrs ago #85
This message was self-deleted by its author usedtobedemgurl 17 hrs ago #103
Dangle $1 million each SonOfNebanaube 17 hrs ago #102
I was skeptical about one accuser, as she had a continuing relationship, but with four accusers? Nah, bye Eric Pompoy 7 hrs ago #136
Why? Having Swalwell drop out now helps Democrats. yardwork 20 hrs ago #11
That's the problem with CA's jungle primary DemocratSinceBirth 19 hrs ago #49
Someone will. That's a certainty. paleotn 19 hrs ago #61
Swalwell is finished. DemocratSinceBirth 19 hrs ago #68
Yes, he is finished. But that's not the end of the world. paleotn 19 hrs ago #71
Four accusers whose accounts have been corroborated DemocratSinceBirth 19 hrs ago #75
Putting on a Pedestal Is One Thing WizumbODaSage 18 hrs ago #88
So Do I WiVoter 20 hrs ago #15
It was self sabotage Fiendish Thingy 21 hrs ago #2
Sometimes Democrats need math lessons OR, they need to think of the party before themselves. LeftInTX 14 hrs ago #123
Reason No. I-Lost-Count why victims don't speak out: They're seen as saboteurs. WhiskeyGrinder 21 hrs ago #4
These threads.... smh. yardwork 20 hrs ago #12
It's sad that we're still doing this EdmondDantes_ 20 hrs ago #13
He can still run. As a Republican n/t leftstreet 21 hrs ago #5
If he could up his numbers to double digits he could be a GOP presidential nominee in 2028. Vinca 20 hrs ago #16
Post removed Post removed 20 hrs ago #6
Speaking of banning... EYESORE 9001 20 hrs ago #19
Darn!!! Did I just miss a visit from our resident troll??? niyad 20 hrs ago #37
How INTERESTING......... some_of_us_are_sane 20 hrs ago #20
Hmmmmm, one of our resident trolls, perhaps? And I missed them! niyad 20 hrs ago #39
Yes, the library must be closed today. Spazito 20 hrs ago #44
LOL!! some_of_us_are_sane 19 hrs ago #74
Probably niyad some_of_us_are_sane 19 hrs ago #69
Definitely not her first post BumRushDaShow 19 hrs ago #60
That doesn't really make sense, though. yardwork 20 hrs ago #8
This +1 Emile 20 hrs ago #14
https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/primary-elections-california mikewv 20 hrs ago #21
Yep Lifeafter70 16 hrs ago #110
Yes, this is a good point. True Dough 20 hrs ago #23
Ah but this is why it is such a cunning plot. Disaffected 20 hrs ago #36
And.....? yardwork 19 hrs ago #53
How many of those Dems have been as vocal as Swalwell against Piggy? MorbidButterflyTat 19 hrs ago #51
It's not a democratic primary, it's a " jungle " primary questionseverything 19 hrs ago #55
so all these former Democratic staffers - have reemerged as Republican operatives .. ? stopdiggin 20 hrs ago #10
You are 100% correct ABC123Easy 20 hrs ago #17
It's a lot better for these accusations to have come out now, LisaL 20 hrs ago #18
I am a Katie Porter fan myself! BlueMTexpat 20 hrs ago #25
It wouldn't surprise me if it came from a Democrat. Renew Deal 20 hrs ago #29
I have to agree, so much infighting. 😔 nt Raine 12 hrs ago #129
Roger Stone did it to Al Franken. The Wizard 20 hrs ago #33
Took 3 weeks and 6 additional women accusing Franken before the calls to resign EdmondDantes_ 20 hrs ago #38
in Franken's case, Stone definitely got the ball rolling but yes, Franken chose to resign. He wasn't forced out. LymphocyteLover 20 hrs ago #43
I don't think so. Think of it as a blessing this came out now and not further down the road. LymphocyteLover 20 hrs ago #42
Agree mikewv 19 hrs ago #47
I sure hope so! LymphocyteLover 14 hrs ago #122
Absolutely. MorbidButterflyTat 20 hrs ago #46
Tee yourself up and guess what happens? FiveFifteen 19 hrs ago #48
Sigh. So, we're still not believing the women. Political party doesn't matter, it's all about not believing the women. mucholderthandirt 19 hrs ago #52
So we should hang a man before we have any evidence? Autumn 16 hrs ago #108
100% this obamanut2012 19 hrs ago #54
Why are these allegations only surfacing now? dlk 19 hrs ago #56
Did you doubt E Jean Carroll or Christine Blasey Ford? EdmondDantes_ 19 hrs ago #64
Apparently you missed the line in my post, "Women should be believed" dlk 15 hrs ago #111
One of the incidents was in 2024. And it often happens that after some woman finally comes forward, pnwmom 4 hrs ago #138
Has Eric responded? GreenWave 19 hrs ago #57
He did apologize to his wife for "past errors" whatever that means. Otherwise it was a denial. 33taw 19 hrs ago #73
It means he had lots of extramarital sex. mr715 8 hrs ago #133
Simply stating what he said. I don't have enough info to have an opinion. 33taw 8 hrs ago #134
Conspiracy theories always going to happen. Jacson6 19 hrs ago #58
Better chance? How about just slightly above zero chance. paleotn 19 hrs ago #59
See if there is some outfit that is bankrolling them. valleyrogue 19 hrs ago #62
This perspective is bullshit. hunter 19 hrs ago #63
And these are very serious allegations jfz9580m 14 hrs ago #120
I agree. Remember Joe Biden. Let's get to the truth. Joinfortmill 19 hrs ago #66
It's the double standard Ibapah 19 hrs ago #72
Where is Roger stone in this? UpInArms 19 hrs ago #76
I thought you were going to say how our supposed ally, Israel, is really screwing the USA over and over. My mistake. nt Exp 19 hrs ago #77
We should know our candidates better. When they tell you who they are the first time believe them. Walleye 19 hrs ago #80
"repugs are playing chess while the Democrats are playing checkers." J_William_Ryan 19 hrs ago #81
I read the San Francisco Chronicle article this morning. cksmithy 19 hrs ago #82
He deserves the same hearing as the Dem refused Franken RVN VET71 19 hrs ago #83
Actually that is not likely to be true karynnj 19 hrs ago #84
Didn't 16 or 17 women accuse TrumpenFuhrer of the same thing and REPUBLICANS DIDNT CARE??? NoMoreRepugs 18 hrs ago #86
I think the number was higher than that MustLoveBeagles 8 hrs ago #135
Yes, if Swalwell is responsible for sexual assault, he needs be held to account Grim Chieftain 18 hrs ago #87
They did this to Al Franklin too (nt) Pluvious 18 hrs ago #89
If he didn't do anything wrong IMO he should stay in the gov race and immediately file a lawsuit in2herbs 18 hrs ago #91
No mater what, the timing is sus SpankMe 18 hrs ago #95
it doesn't "prove that men are scum" Skittles 17 hrs ago #100
Maybe a good time for this RoseTrellis 17 hrs ago #96
I don't think so... WarGamer 17 hrs ago #99
Why isn't abuse believed pattyloutwo 17 hrs ago #101
Exactly, this is a hit job. Initech 16 hrs ago #104
The reactions here spotlight the hypocrisy of the republicans liberal N proud 16 hrs ago #105
No matter what he is guilty of making bad decisions!!! Pisces 16 hrs ago #106
I'm a California voter... GJGCA 16 hrs ago #107
I love the quote, ""Love is not love / Which alters when it alteration finds / Or bends with the remover to remove." Martin68 16 hrs ago #109
Epanalepsis, on the other hand... GJGCA 15 hrs ago #112
they are at war, we are playing by the rules. pansypoo53219 15 hrs ago #114
They have abandoned the rules especially the rule of law. live love laugh 15 hrs ago #117
full scale cheating for sure. pansypoo53219 11 hrs ago #130
Swalwell"s Staff Has Thrown Him Under the Bus Locutusofborg 15 hrs ago #115
Who always benefits from these things? That's where the focus should also be. live love laugh 15 hrs ago #116
This news about Swalwell sucks.... but IcyPeas 15 hrs ago #119
Face the facts.. raising2moredems 13 hrs ago #124
I think the difference is that the republicans support the nastiest, hidden elements of the government. They are the LT Barclay 13 hrs ago #125
I hear roger stone was in on this Clouds Passing 12 hrs ago #126
Until there is proof of misconduct he should not step down. If kacekwl 12 hrs ago #127
So Katie Porter isn't electable because she used a swear word, but we're supposed pnwmom 4 hrs ago #137
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