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Jedi Guy

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23. You might be surprised. Not everyone is prepared to excuse physical violence in response to speech.
Mon May 11, 2026, 08:50 PM
May 11

It's probably also not something we as a society necessarily want to encourage given the consequences it can have for both the victim and the person uttering the "fighting words".

As an example, I saw a video on YouTube not long ago about an incident from a few years ago. A young black guy in his early 20s was working at Dunkin Donuts. A customer, an older fellow in his 60s or 70s, came into the store upset about something to do with his drive through order.

The conversation didn't go well, tempers flared, and the customer called the guy the N-word. The young guy replied, "Call me that again and see what happens." The guy called him the N-word again. The guy slugged the old asshole right in the face. The older guy fell, cracked his head on the floor, and subsequently died of a brain bleed.

Some among us would view his death with minimal to no sympathy or be glad he was dead but that's beside the point here. The point is that this young black man ended up being charged with manslaughter. And if I were on the jury I would vote to convict him regardless of how I feel about the guy who died. He was an asshole, beyond a doubt, but do we want a society where being an asshole means someone can kill you and be considered justified in doing so?

I don't want to live in that society; your mileage may vary. Words can most certainly be hurtful and cruel but they are, at the end of the day, words. Allowing people to respond to speech they don't like with violence based on their subjective feelings is not a great precedent to set.

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Neimi was cruising for a brusing. marble falls May 11 #1
To the extent that I wonder what the "fighting words" defense is, if there is one in Cali. prodigitalson May 11 #3
"Fighting words" generally are not a defense to a physical assault onenote May 11 #12
Thanks for explaining prodigitalson Monday #25
Trump, our Christo Fascist Evangelicals, Fox News, and just dumb ass mouth breathing idiots make this ... Botany May 11 #2
Before anyone says they shouldn't have followed him...it could hurt his defense if charged prodigitalson May 11 #4
Jury of peers in Superior Court of LA? haele May 11 #6
See post #12. onenote May 11 #13
"Have you ever heard about the statistics coming out that gay men are much more likely to commit child molestation?" Ray Bruns May 11 #5
"influencer" is the most worthless title you can give yourself RainCaster May 11 #7
Niemi is a tube of dog shit. n/t SpankMe May 11 #8
So this 21 year-old screaming bigot, complete with posse, deliberately niyad May 11 #9
If I lived there, and assuming it actually went to trial, I would have no niyad May 11 #10
I would have lost it and did much worse Johnny2X2X May 11 #11
Niemi thought gays don't get physical azureblue May 11 #14
If this goes to trial, I can't imagine he would be convicted. LoisB May 11 #15
About damn time!!!! AverageOldGuy May 11 #16
I generally abhor violence, but it's the only language these bigots understand momta May 11 #17
One of my daughter's best friends is a gay guy she met in high school. patphil May 11 #18
There is the doctrine of using fighting words in common law. Jacson6 May 11 #19
You might be surprised. Not everyone is prepared to excuse physical violence in response to speech. Jedi Guy May 11 #23
See post #12. onenote May 12 #24
CA law somsai May 11 #20
You know what is weird AND twisted? Allowing known pedophiles to father their own children FakeNoose May 11 #21
Unfortunately, these shitwad "influencers" welcome the reaction flvegan May 11 #22
K&R ck4829 Monday #26
Apparently, MAGA's have so much inner turmoil and bitterness, they can't mind their own business dlk Monday #27
Thinking about how often the rw extremists project their own bad behavior onto others, FullySupportDems Monday #28
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