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wnylib

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54. There's a bit more to it.
Wed May 27, 2026, 06:30 PM
Wednesday

For decades, the RW politicians told people that their problems were due to liberal ideas. While the right was shifting money towards to themselves on tax breaks, busting unions, and catering to stockholders the financial costs of governing fell to the middle and working classes. Then RW pols told people that their lower incomes and higher costs were caused by immigrants, and by the govt costs of desegregation, regulatory laws on businesses, people receiving SS and Medicare, and poor people getting SNAP benefits.

We needed to listen to the complaints of people whose incomes were not rising while costs were. Then share their concerns and show them what was really behind their problems and what we would do to make things better for them.

We stood up for the rights of the people that they had learned to blame, and that was the right thing to do. But I think that we did not go far enough in showing them how the RW pols were causing the problems. We criticized RW pols for racism, xenophobia about immigrants, and the lack of character in people like Trump, but did not show clearly enough how the right was blaming certain groups for what the right was actually doing.

I remember bringing that up at a local Dem headquarters while phone banking for Obama in 2008. A couple volunteers did not understand what I said about wealthy tax breaks shifting costs to people on the economic ladder below them. I had to give examples and was surprised that Dem volunteers had not been aware of it. Imagine what RW voters did not know and needed to hear.

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